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20. Biden's lack of charisma probably hurt especially near the end of his term

Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:43 PM

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He couldn't effectively defend the party nor effectively attack Trump on winnable issues. Kamala Harris was able to do that more so its more of a draw, Kamala won the debate and helped close the gap from Biden's poll numbers before he dropped out.

Also Obama was very charismatic even if I didn't agree with a lot of his policies he was able to make a convincing argument.

I think the young progressives can raise a lot of grassroots donations. Mamdani still won even though he was outspent by at least 10-1.

I think the courts will be conservative for generations--the best we can hope for is to nominate enough Democratic Presidents to try to make up for it but I don't see a solution here whether it is coming from the moderate or progressive wing.

They won't get a fair shake from the MSM but most people are turning to alternative and independent forms of media so it is better to compete on that playing field.

I think the young progressives can boost turnout and do better with young people than third way kind of politics.

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Robt. Reich: Leave it to the Democratic Party to snatch an existential crisis from the jaws of electoral victory. [View all] IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 27 OP

There are many good reasons to ignore Larry Summers. Passages Jun 27 #1

Both parties have been taken over by the oligarchs. Bluetus Jun 27 #4

Larry Who...? Montauk6 Jun 27 #15

He is mentioned in Robert Reich's OP Passages Jun 27 #21

I am convinced that one of the most successful strategist from republicans has been to inflitrate republicans Escurumbele Jun 28 #34

Mamdani and other young politicians with the charisma to connect with the people and a willingness to take on corporate elleng Jun 27 #2

I hope we become more progressive in the US - seems like we are walkingman Jun 27 #3

The less we hear from Summers, the better off we all will be. Raven123 Jun 27 #5

One of the architects of the 2008 financial crisis Envirogal Jun 28 #36

Maybe a Phoenix is our main chance... BurnDoubt Jun 27 #6

Big tent? Beck23 Jun 27 #7

Aren't you supposed to learn something after an election? Grins Jun 27 #8

Same goddamn comments after President Obama Aviation Pro Jun 27 #9

Reich is right about this. yardwork Jun 27 #10

If you ask me, I'd rather get rid of Third Way. Just saying - they are a losing ticket. n/t PatrickforB Jun 27 #11

Kicked. KPN Jun 27 #12

All nice, but you can't run a campaign on charisma alone, not nationally anyway. bucolic_frolic Jun 27 #13

Biden's lack of charisma probably hurt especially near the end of his term AZProgressive Jun 27 #20

I interpret you're saying neither relying on corporate cash... returnee Jun 28 #29

Matt Bennett is not "the Democratic Party" BaronChocula Jun 27 #14

And... Leave it to Robert Reich... Oopsie Daisy Jun 27 #16

NY US Senator Gillibrand attacking Mamdani is EXACTLY the problem Reich states IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 27 #17

Why does he amplify it? Oopsie Daisy Jun 27 #19

I read that he is pointing out... returnee Jun 28 #30

they're all singing the same song stillcool Jun 27 #27

Isn't Third Way supposed to be "nonpartisan"? JHB Jun 27 #18

IMO Third Way has some explaining to do. Republican lite is not a solution it is capitulation to the corporate state Ford_Prefect Jun 27 #22

He wont be mayor if Cuomo splits the vote Figarosmom Jun 27 #23

LOL - Right, New York is going to elect Red Barrett guy maxrandb Jun 27 #25

Repubicans will do whatever it takes Figarosmom Jun 28 #40

I think Cuomo will split votes with Eric Adams AZProgressive Jun 27 #26

Hope you're wrong. returnee Jun 28 #31

I think Adams and Cuomo's giant egos fujiyamasan Jun 28 #37

I want someone who will fight, fight the GOP, fight Trump, fight MAGA and fight the Oligarchs. Dan Jun 27 #24

I partially blame the voters of the United States. chouchou Jun 27 #28

Americans love their socislism. Beck23 Jun 28 #32

Like, what else Just Jerome Jun 28 #33

I expect malicious drivel from Republicans... GiqueCee Jun 28 #35

Sometimes..... beemerphill Jun 28 #38

Mamdani's primary victory certainly a gift to the Democratic Party notwithstanding. David__77 Jun 28 #39