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AtheistCrusader

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23. Woah, that may have carried a negative connotation. Let me clarify.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 12:21 PM
Sep 2014

"Having an abortion is not gaming the system. It's a deeply personal choice."

Sorry if that sounded flippant. I meant it in a dry, mathematical sense. Since most women who encounter this problem have some sort of risk factor, it is an odds game, but I don't mean it as a 'fun' game. Serious business. What I meant was, in most cases, it is not unreasonable to assume that a second or third attempt would not produce a Trisomy 21 positive fetus.

To get back to the 'intentional' question, why would you insist on said evaluation? I fully agree with you, but I am not able to articulate why, beyond some undercurrent of moral dilemma, intentionally attempting to produce a child that, statistically, is likely to remain a dependent or semi-dependent their entire life, and statistically, likely to have a significantly shorter than average life.

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If we could all just be more like him, the world would be perfect. cbayer Aug 2014 #1
He does leave a lot to be desired. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #2
Interesting. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #3
So you agree with Dawkins that it is "immoral" not to abort a fetus with Downs? Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #4
I don't know that suggesting a burden on a potential mother is helpful in this discussion/issue. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #7
My problem with Dawkins' pronouncement Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #11
Eugenics is about changing (improving) the genetics of a population cbayer Sep 2014 #5
You said it yourself. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #6
That is just twisting words. cbayer Sep 2014 #8
I didn't twist anything. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #9
I think you are reading something in to this that is not there. cbayer Sep 2014 #10
Well, we agree on abortion. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #14
Again, carrying a down's child to term is entirely up to the person cbayer Sep 2014 #15
If a fetus is not a potential person Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #12
The key is; potential. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #13
You seem to be raising the question as to whether it is moral for a woman cbayer Sep 2014 #16
I am stating that it is morally fine. 100%. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #17
What if a woman was being paid to do it cbayer Sep 2014 #18
Sure, i accept the revised hypothetical. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #19
Yes, but it doesn't have to do with abortion. cbayer Sep 2014 #20
Well, what I was trying to drive at is: AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #21
I would insist on a psychiatric evaluation of anyone that wanted to do that, frankly. cbayer Sep 2014 #22
Woah, that may have carried a negative connotation. Let me clarify. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #23
Most women who encounter this have one single risk factor - age. cbayer Sep 2014 #24
kicking. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #25
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