Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
History of Feminism
Showing Original Post only (View all)“I am No Man” Doesn’t Cut It: The Story of Eowyn (Lord of the Rings/popular culture-related) [View all]
Thought this was an interesting article. Whether or not you're a Tolkien fan, I think there are some valuable insights in ths article regardless.
snip:
It says something to me that a WWI vet from a devout Catholic background wrote about a warrior woman in a book published in 1954 that was more feminist than her modern interpretation ended up being.
snip:
Eowyn in the books is a very cold, very unhappy, character. Shes been relegated to nurse maid to a sick uncle while her brother gets to go out and fight and do all the things she wants to do. Like have a life of any kind. While her brother loves her he kind of doesnt pay attention to whats going on with her at all. It never even occurs to him that maybe shes not super psyched about watching over her sickly uncle all the time. He just assumes shes cool with it because thats what ladies do. Its Gandalf who points out to Eomer, later, that maybe he should have thought about what it was like for her to be cooped up in Meduseld, watching her family disintegrate and the world fall apart. That she had no less of a fierce spirit than he does, just because shes female. In the book, Eomer has a major realization after that, that he might not really have ever known his sister. This is a bit of a running theme when it comes to Eowyn.
Beyond being undervalued, Eowyn is also being stalked by a gross little man who is slowly poisoning her uncles mind and clearly expects to get her as a reward later. Eowyn isnt stupid, shes well aware of the danger shes in and that she has basically no one to turn to if things go majorly south, especially once Eomer is banished. Her life is exactly what she most fears: a cage. She has a lot of very good reasons to feel trapped and bitter.
Beyond being undervalued, Eowyn is also being stalked by a gross little man who is slowly poisoning her uncles mind and clearly expects to get her as a reward later. Eowyn isnt stupid, shes well aware of the danger shes in and that she has basically no one to turn to if things go majorly south, especially once Eomer is banished. Her life is exactly what she most fears: a cage. She has a lot of very good reasons to feel trapped and bitter.
snip:
My issue is with the way they had Eowyn moon over Aragorn in the films. And it hinges on a key scene from the book that they left out completely. In it, Aragorn tells Eowyn that she cant come with him on The Paths of the Dead because her people need her and that renown isnt really all its cracked up to be. Hes not wrong, exactly, but he basically tells her its her duty to stay behind, something he would never say to her uncle or brother.
And she calls him on it. Flat out. She tells him, All your words are but to say: you are a woman, and your part is in the house. But when the men have died in battle and honour, you have leave to be burned in the house, for the men will need it no more. But I am of the House of Eorl and not a serving-woman. I can ride and wield blade, and I do not fear either pain or death.
Think about that for a moment. Not only is she calling him out for sexism, she lays out why its sexist and does a pretty damn fine job of distilling down the lot of women in this culture. To whit: if there arent men around, you dont really matter, and you definitely dont get to decide for yourself how you live OR die if youre a lady. Thats very powerful, especially in a series that deals a lot with the trappings of war and glory from a distinctly masculine point of view.
And she calls him on it. Flat out. She tells him, All your words are but to say: you are a woman, and your part is in the house. But when the men have died in battle and honour, you have leave to be burned in the house, for the men will need it no more. But I am of the House of Eorl and not a serving-woman. I can ride and wield blade, and I do not fear either pain or death.
Think about that for a moment. Not only is she calling him out for sexism, she lays out why its sexist and does a pretty damn fine job of distilling down the lot of women in this culture. To whit: if there arent men around, you dont really matter, and you definitely dont get to decide for yourself how you live OR die if youre a lady. Thats very powerful, especially in a series that deals a lot with the trappings of war and glory from a distinctly masculine point of view.
snip:
This matters because A. Aragorn is one of the good guys and hes still being a complete ass B. it shows that though Eowyn may have fuzzy feelings about him she is not some spineless, weepy, floormat begging for scraps of love. Shes not going to put up with crap from anyone. This seems incredibly central to her character to me and yet
its not even touched on in the film. The closest we get is the line about women in that country knowing that those without swords can still die upon them and fearing neither death nor pain
but it lacks the context and direct confrontation of sexism that the book provides.
Full article: http://www.themarysue.com/the-story-of-eowyn/
6 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

“I am No Man” Doesn’t Cut It: The Story of Eowyn (Lord of the Rings/popular culture-related) [View all]
YoungDemCA
Jan 2015
OP
In fairness to the directors/producers/writers, there was a lot of good stuff from the books that
geek tragedy
Jan 2015
#4