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LiberalLoner

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33. I want to say something else, about the war that is going on.

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 08:50 AM

Mar 2013

I feel like there has been a pandemic of meanness in our culture. Of treating other people like they are things. Women get treated like objects, and that hurts. Men get treated like they are cannon fodder or paychecks and nothing else, and that hurts.

And we are all hurting. And we get into a habit where we say, "but I hurt worse than you!" And we fight and we make fun and we hurt others.

The thing is, we are all hurting. And the mutual enemy is the system, really the economic system, that is teaching us from birth to see each other as objects and not precious souls. That teaches us to look through people instead of into their eyes. That teaches us to fight instead of really really listening to someone else.

But the elite, who benefit from all of us fighting amongst ourselves, remain safe.

We are all hurting, and most of us really are hurting very badly. What can we do to help one another, to listen, to treat each other with a respect that is denied all of us in the mainstream society these days?

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i've gotten permission to post a pm that was sent to me earlier, about first world problems for some [View all] seabeyond Mar 2013 OP

. Skittles Mar 2013 #1

i am right there with you woman. i apprecaite her letting me post. i knew for a while there was a seabeyond Mar 2013 #2

she's very brave Skittles Mar 2013 #3

i think so, too. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #4

DU Rec Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #5

Oh, how sad Stargazer09 Mar 2013 #6

And this !StrongBlackMan ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #77

Wow, Just Wow. How Brave of Her to Share. dballance Mar 2013 #7

I wish THIS comment been the OP about Amina. Squinch Mar 2013 #26

+1!!! 2naSalit Mar 2013 #58

the word was used mercuryblues Feb 2014 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author LittleBlue Mar 2013 #8

i was concerned about that. i think she is safe. i think she is ok. i think the point of pming seabeyond Mar 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author LittleBlue Mar 2013 #12

If She Ever Needs to Know People are Here for Her I'm Happy You Can... dballance Mar 2013 #22

i got a pm this morning. she was referring about jumping into the thread. she has people she loves seabeyond Mar 2013 #47

i re read it. i think she is referring to jump... into the thread. and getting banned. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #13

I wouldn't tell anyone on DU anything about me personally. boston bean Mar 2013 #27

the last week i have had too many say something about damaged, unbalanced, mentally issues. new meme seabeyond Mar 2013 #46

I didn't even jump into that thread.. the subject was interesting and the protest impactful for the glowing Mar 2013 #48

i was in the 70's, 80's when men (well, guys) didnt do the oggling. we would strip for seabeyond Mar 2013 #50

Thanks for sharing. Sounds trite to say that, but it is sincere. The writer has talent, writes well Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #9

i stopped reading at First world probloems Lordquinton Mar 2013 #11

So: Since you called me out by name, I'll just say cliffordu Mar 2013 #14

see, here is your HUGE problem. you post shit. you get a piece and then post shit. made up shit. seabeyond Mar 2013 #16

Word salad. cliffordu Mar 2013 #17

sooner you hit bottom, the sooner you can get help. seabeyond Mar 2013 #18

Then the story of Amina has triggered her and I am sorry for that cliffordu Mar 2013 #19

again, with all you posted, you do not have your facts correct. seabeyond Mar 2013 #20

ah, yes you did have something to do with it. boston bean Mar 2013 #29

Seriously? Your OP creates this kind of reaction in someone and you're going to complain about Squinch Mar 2013 #28

For your edification ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #73

Fuck me, how far back are you going to go, anyway? cliffordu Feb 2014 #74

I knew exactly what the fuck it meant and the insult stands. Half the time she writes like a drunk. cliffordu Feb 2014 #75

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Feb 2014 #78

I thank you for posting this. The current complaints are clearly a bear trap cliffordu Feb 2014 #79

You're post in GD shows a breadth of ignorance boston bean Mar 2013 #25

Your opinion here means so little I will not respond except to say this: cliffordu Feb 2014 #76

Please cliffordu UtahLib Feb 2014 #80

As I recall I sent a PM to the woman I offended, due to an idiotic misunderstanding on my part cliffordu Feb 2014 #81

I made no assumptions, whatsoever, about you. UtahLib Feb 2014 #85

Really don't give a shit one way or another. cliffordu Feb 2014 #87

Sorry. I'm responding to the attacks of the last few days cliffordu Feb 2014 #88

No, it looks like you gotta go back a year for this. boston bean Feb 2014 #91

I'd imagine the guilty soul would rather a time-limit be placed on his own words. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #95

Funny you can't provide me with the bad cliffordu Feb 2014 #96

You seem irrational, shrill, and overly-emotional... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #97

Again- what post with the bad words cliffordu Feb 2014 #98

SAY......Can you send me a nice link to that post?? cliffordu Feb 2014 #84

You are responding to a post I wrote in March 2013 boston bean Feb 2014 #89

I know. Read up thread cliffordu Feb 2014 #92

And you're attacking me for something I wrote almost a year ago. boston bean Feb 2014 #93

OOPs. You got caught in the crossfire. Welcome to being collateral damage. cliffordu Feb 2014 #94

translated...."now shut up and go make me a sandwich" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #101

Human problems are All-World problems. Title "first world problems" in threads has been misused Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #15

Whoever you are, tavalon Mar 2013 #21

That is heartbreaking. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #23

Indeed, my IL chervilant Mar 2013 #43

Three women a day in the USA are murdered by their partner. boston bean Mar 2013 #24

"I guess it's ok, cause they are murdered mostly by guns, not stones." ya. read that. seabeyond Mar 2013 #49

The author of the PM uses the exact same writing style and Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #30

Sure. Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #31

Really? Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #36

ya? well, you caught me. really. good job. seabeyond Mar 2013 #51

I know a sub-literate idiot who pretends to be clever and maintains precisely the same writing style LanternWaste Apr 2013 #65

The writing styles are not even slightly the same gollygee Apr 2013 #66

Because only one woman in the world BainsBane Apr 2013 #67

I'm so sorry. Oh, God, I'm so sorry. LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #32

you blurt? yes, you blurt. and you are admired for the ability. and that blurting helps others to, seabeyond Mar 2013 #52

I want to say something else, about the war that is going on. LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #33

That is all warm and fuzzy. I can appreciate the thought. boston bean Mar 2013 #34

I'm too naive sometimes, it's true. I wish I knew how to make things better, I really do. LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #39

If you get a minute go read ism's thread at this link boston bean Mar 2013 #41

Thank you, I will read it now! LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #42

... ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #35

Seems DU has descended into another theme week MadrasT Mar 2013 #37

What you said! Little Star Mar 2013 #45

Breaks my heart for what she has experienced in her life.... Little Star Mar 2013 #38

+1 but it won't because they have decided we are the problem. If we would LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #40

Could be a financial decision.... Little Star Mar 2013 #44

i think they are comfortable because they have enough women, and the women have their ear, that us seabeyond Mar 2013 #55

That's exactly why I think it will take.... Little Star Mar 2013 #57

daughters? do any of them have daughters? as sad as it is, and having an OP on the very issue, seabeyond Mar 2013 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #54

one is married with 2, 3, 10 sons? i tease. i havent followed how many. i think 3. seabeyond Mar 2013 #56

Whoever wrote that, I'm sorry that abuse happened to them. raccoon Mar 2013 #59

The same ones praising topless protestors are the same ones who Lecture American Women JI7 Mar 2013 #60

oh J17. it is all so very clear what is happening here. seabeyond Mar 2013 #61

it is seeing certain names JI7 Mar 2013 #62

hypocrisy abounds. or is it lack of honesty and integrity. hmmmm. a quandary. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #63

to the woman that wrote the pm. thank you. people stopped. and thought. that is always a good seabeyond Mar 2013 #64

I didn't make this up. JTFrog Feb 2014 #68

Dear JT, what a strong,incredible survivor you are. sufrommich Feb 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #70

Please try not to feel humiliated. The response you got tonight was cruel and heartless in the Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #71

I have a very good friend ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #72

It took a lot of strength to open up about this TDale313 Feb 2014 #82

Of course you didn't BainsBane Feb 2014 #83

+1 nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #90

. JI7 Feb 2014 #86

n/t JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #99

Apparently, now it's the new taunt to throw out "first world problems" JTFrog Feb 2014 #100

I am so sorry to hear this JT, you have been a great voice for women on DU. Please seaglass Feb 2014 #103

I'm sorry, JT. I hope to see you back here someday if you're able. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #104

Be well JT RBStevens Feb 2014 #105

We need peace... and that's hard to come by. defacto7 Feb 2014 #102