Atheists & Agnostics

Joe Nation

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18. What I mean by that....

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 17, 2024, 02:22 PM

Dec 2024

Is the fact that you can't define atheism if there is no belief in a diety by someone. Atheism as a concept only exists because there is a belief in a diety in the first place. I do not like the dependent nature of the relationship where atheism is just a reaction to a set of mythical beliefs. I believe that this dynamic keeps atheism as subordinate alternative to the belief systems that simply tell a better fictional story.

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I have never felt akin to Atheists nor believers [View all] Joe Nation Dec 2024 OP

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I can't see why that's "subordinate", though muriel_volestrangler Dec 2024 #19

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