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In reply to the discussion: Since we seem to be discussing Cognitive Biases... [View all]NeoGreen
(4,033 posts)24. Dialog isn't a mere tit for tat...
...and it would be meaningless to respond to a thesis that isn't fully defined.
Your request for the a logical basis for the thesis you posted (i.e. the Original Question {OQ}):
i.e. Theism is delusional.
Is an interesting topic for discussion, but we need to agree on what is being discussed, in order to have meaningful dialog.
I asked for your definition of Delusional.
You replied with:
A belief that is contradicted by reality.
Example: The earth is demonstrably and provably spherical. Any claim that the earth is flat is obviously delusional.
Your definition largely comports with the Webster definition:
1a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated
1b psychology : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary.
2 : the act of tricking or deceiving someone : the state of being deluded
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/delusion
I will slightly modify Webster's general definition, to avoid using the word or its root in the definition, to offer: A persistent belief that is falsely believed or propagated about one's self, other persons or objects outside the self.
Once we get these definitional questions/uncertainties cleared up, we can then systematically work our way to answering the OQ. Any demand that we jump ahead to a poorly evaluated response to the OQ before we clear up all definitional questions strongly suggests that that there is an agenda out there which is angling for a pre-planned or canned answer. I would like to avoid that if possible.
Let's work on an answer to your OQ together and reach an mutually agreeable conclusion, through honest dialog.
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Your own faith has certain tenets about the nature of your god does it not?
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2019
#12
Again, your faith(TM) or religion makes truth claims about the nature of your god(s), correct?
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2019
#22
That is not how they are presented by the humans that advocate for them.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2019
#25
Do you believe Jesus Christ literally existed, was literally dead for 3 days (ok, a day and a half)
trotsky
Oct 2019
#18
Think of it like an innoculation. It enables your immune system to recognize an invader.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2019
#11