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chowmama

(699 posts)
40. I could have stayed on my work insurance
Sat Oct 28, 2023, 10:00 PM
Oct 2023

But chose to go on Medicare when the time came, knowing I'd need a supplement for Part D. My work insurance had double-digit increases in paycheck contributions every single year, for years, with a larger co-pay to boot and sometimes less coverage. My co-workers who made claims from time to time always were denied first and had to contest the first decision to get any coverage at all. It was supposed to be a non-profit company in our state, although they're for-profit in some others. No way was I staying.

I looked at my current year's contribution (knowing it would be larger in a month or two) and used that to see what I could get for the same money, Medicare and supplement counted together. I also wanted a real non-profit company based in my state (Minnesota). And an Advantage plan was not of any interest for reasons I'll state below.

For no more than my work insurance co-pay, counting both Medicare and my non-Advantage supplement, I have better coverage than I had with the work plan. Now, I realize I can afford it because I'm still working, so I'm lucky that way. When I start collecting Social Security in 2 months, I'll still be able to afford it even after I retire. But I've watched my co-workers deal with the plans getting switched around and around, and just continuing to get worse and worse. I'm well out of it. And yet I've had right wingers ask me and DH, "So, Medicare is a good thing?". They listen to Faux News and RW talk radio; they can't and won't believe it. Advantage is marketed to them.

Advantage is a suckers' game, IMO. It was invented to kill Medicare. I don't care how cheap the coverage is now - what do you think it'll be when Medicare no longer exists? When they win, there's no competition, and you have no choice but to buy their product? If possible, they'll lobby to still force people to buy something and they're the only something available.

I'm guessing those great rates will spiral upwards like a tornado, and the coverage will essentially disappear. Get sick enough, they'll find a way to drop you entirely. An entire country with all the sick people on what used to be called 'Sign of the Cross' insurance - none at all. And the healthy people paying through the nose for little to nothing, one big bill away from being in the same boat.

I don't think they can kill it before I die, so if I was selfish, I wouldn't care. But I don't want my kids, grandkids, or anybody's kids to have to live like that. This is still a civilized society, not the permanent feudal state the corporate interests dream of.

The makers of Medicare Advantage are not our friends. We don't have to help them.

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People use those plans because they can't afford traditional Medicare, a supplement, and Part D. Silent Type Oct 2023 #1
You're right. I am paying about 800 dollars a month for 2 with part D, but no dental. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #3
Medicare desperately needs fixing. area51 Oct 2023 #12
All for MFA, but the chances now are zero. Silent Type Oct 2023 #14
I chose traditional Medicare XanaDUer2 Oct 2023 #2
That's what I' feeling too, if that's any consolation. Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #15
that's obviously the end result - to get rid of Medicare Skittles Oct 2023 #25
Absolutely. That's the GOP plan. Nt lostnfound Oct 2023 #48
MA is the only way to get my retiree 'benefits'. sinkingfeeling Oct 2023 #4
Mine did, too. I still opted out for original Medicare. Deuxcents Oct 2023 #5
My husband's as well. phylny Oct 2023 #11
What other benefits could you lose? That doesn't even sound legal. pnwmom Oct 2023 #22
Here is a no-video link to a similar article Josiesdad Oct 2023 #6
The Medicare advantage plans have been over charging and seriously draining Medicare coffers PortTack Oct 2023 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author anciano Oct 2023 #8
My husband and I chose MA 15 years ago when we were 65. enough Oct 2023 #9
Where are all the people being taken advantage of? dpibel Oct 2023 #13
Have MA and perfectly fine with it. MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #17
do you have a 20% copay? WhiteTara Oct 2023 #41
No, Do not have a 20% copay unc70 Oct 2023 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Oct 2023 #19
THE TAXPAYERS, THAT'S WHO Skittles Oct 2023 #20
DAYUM! dpibel Oct 2023 #26
the ultimate goal is to get rid of Medicare Skittles Oct 2023 #37
I understand that's what Thom says dpibel Oct 2023 #43
I've had MA since becoming eligible ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #33
Have had MA for 10 years. Joinfortmill Nov 2023 #49
I get several calls a day trying to sell me one of these plans LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #10
medicare will be taking 18% out of my SS orleans Oct 2023 #16
And how do you think you arrived at MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #18
i lived too fucking long orleans Oct 2023 #21
Medigap policies are worth the expense, if you can at all afford it. pnwmom Oct 2023 #23
wow -- which ins. company -- sounds like a good one nt orleans Oct 2023 #24
Premera Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois. It's a Boeing policy and that's where Boeing pnwmom Oct 2023 #27
Be sure to sign up for a Medigap aka a Medicare Supplement program within the designated 6 month period progree Oct 2023 #38
But what would it be with M. Advantage? dpibel Oct 2023 #28
It wouldn't matter to me because the bottom line was $174. Maybe Medicare Advantage pnwmom Oct 2023 #46
I asked my Agent when one should get original MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #31
But at that point you can be turned down for a supplement because of the pre-existing condition Demobrat Oct 2023 #34
Based on these threads that pop up every so often, Demobrat Oct 2023 #29
There are many that just can't pay for what MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #32
I'm one of them ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #35
Yes. MA is definitely better than OM alone. Demobrat Oct 2023 #36
There is really no right answer for everyone. Demobrat Oct 2023 #42
High-paid celebricon endorsers, high rates of claim... dchill Oct 2023 #30
Nice slogans dpibel Oct 2023 #44
Not stupid. Just gullible. dchill Oct 2023 #47
My daughter is a home-care RN Case Manager Freddie Oct 2023 #39
I could have stayed on my work insurance chowmama Oct 2023 #40
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