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Israel/Palestine

branford

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22. Would you agree that the PA and Hamas (and most of the Arab world)

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 14, 2017, 04:26 PM

Jan 2017

are openly and demonstrably worse than Israel in terms of "ethnonationalism" by multiple orders of magnitude, or do you hold Jews to a totally different standard? Israel is purportedly "slouching towards ethnonationalism," but the Arab world been there for centuries.

Moreover, if this purported ethnonationalism is such a great evil, why would Israel agree to what amounts to two violent, illiberal ethnonationalism states on its tiny borders?

Do you realize that appealing to vague notions of "democracy" and "liberalism" are actually arguments AGAINST concessions for a Palestinian state, at least given the current political, social and cultural state of the Palestinians.

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74% Republicans, 33% Democrats back Israel over Palestinians poll [View all] geek tragedy Jan 2017 OP

Terrorist, Muslims, Palestinians, etc. HassleCat Jan 2017 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #2

We're talking government AJT Jan 2017 #3

The point you make is excellent. Also, the actual PEW poll did NOT use the word "backing" still_one Jan 2017 #5

Interesting that the Times of Israel decided to substitute the word sympathize for still_one Jan 2017 #4

the third/ fourth option kind of blurs the results Mosby Jan 2017 #6

Tich and Geek have been blind to that for years FBaggins Jan 2017 #8

I readily acknowledge that the Democratic elite political class is overwhelmingly geek tragedy Jan 2017 #9

The point you keep missing is that NEITHER republicans nor democrats agree with YOU FBaggins Jan 2017 #10

LOL geek tragedy Jan 2017 #11

The graphs in the poll show clearly a huge drop in Democratic sympathies for Israel since 2016. Little Tich Jan 2017 #15

I think its reflects the failures of the Netanyahu gov Mosby Jan 2017 #17

And a much larger percentage are prejudiced against geek tragedy Jan 2017 #19

Most anti-Semites are of course Republicans - I don't think members of the KKK vote Democrat. Little Tich Jan 2017 #23

The liberal argument for Israel is getting weaker. Little Tich Jan 2017 #7

So, you're belief that the admitted only democracy in the Middle East, branford Jan 2017 #12

Game, set, match! grossproffit Jan 2017 #13

Apartheid and racism are not conservative values. Little Tich Jan 2017 #14

Would you then care to explain, no less excuse, branford Jan 2017 #16

I seems to me as if you're blaming the victims for their own misfortune. Little Tich Jan 2017 #18

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #21

Certain elements of rightwing ideology are hostile to democracy. geek tragedy Jan 2017 #20

Would you agree that the PA and Hamas (and most of the Arab world) branford Jan 2017 #22

Hamas is abhorrent and vile and anathema to liberal values. geek tragedy Jan 2017 #24