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9. Yes, you met your tax obligation on a quarterly basis
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 11:42 AM
Oct 2023

I don't have any taxes automatically subject to withholding as I don't have earned income.

I calculate my tax liability in early December and then make a withdrawal from my IRA and have a sufficient amount withheld for my federal income tax.


All of my income is "unearned" - dividends, capital gains, Roth conversions, IRA RMD's ... I make my Roth conversions and IRA RMD's in December and so factor in the taxes on that in my 4th quarter estimated tax payment due January 15. And sometimes I check the withholding box too. I forget if Vanguard and Fidelity allow a higher percentage than whatever their default percentage is.

That said, I've filled out many a Form 2210 for underestimating my payments by a small amout. And/or asserting that my IRA RMD "income" and Roth conversion "income" were in December, so that I can pay taxes on those by January 15.

I've been using TurboTax for the last 5 years or so, so I forget the details. But I go through EVERYTHING on the tax return, whether prepared with TurboTax or a CPA, before filing it.


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Underpayment penalty [View all] walkingman Oct 2023 OP
Google "estimated taxes" and, for next marybourg Oct 2023 #1
Thank you - the "safe harbor" rule might be something I can use. walkingman Oct 2023 #2
I make estimated tax and other kinds of payments using eftps.gov progree Oct 2023 #3
Thanks for the info!! walkingman Oct 2023 #14
Two ways to satisfy withholding requirement IbogaProject Oct 2023 #4
Yes, I need to take the time to get a good estimate of my liability- thanks. walkingman Oct 2023 #15
Link to IRS rules nitpicked Oct 2023 #5
I do have several already matured - I need to do some calc to see what I am actually dealing with. Gracias. walkingman Oct 2023 #16
You must meet your tax obligations on a quarterly basis progree Oct 2023 #6
I wait and don't get a penalty Yonnie3 Oct 2023 #7
Yes, you met your tax obligation on a quarterly basis progree Oct 2023 #9
I have taxable income in every quarter, Yonnie3 Oct 2023 #10
Umm progree Oct 2023 #11
Vanguard allows me to withhold 0% up to 90% IIRC Yonnie3 Oct 2023 #13
That is correct. If walkingman gets interest from the CD in Feb, then he has to pay an estimated tax to Wonder Why Oct 2023 #12
That is what I am a little worried about - was hoping to make a payment or overpayment by EOY.- thanks walkingman Oct 2023 #18
definately too late for that - thanks. walkingman Oct 2023 #17
If you have a good estimate Unwind Your Mind Oct 2023 #8
My thinking also - need to do a little more reasearch - thanks. walkingman Oct 2023 #19
Most of the CDs, not all (maybe 60-70K) are brokered CDs through Fidelity. It would be nice walkingman Oct 2023 #20
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