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70. AI Chatbots reviewed by Behind the Bastards

Thu Jun 11, 2026, 10:28 AM

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This is an in depth review of the AI chatbot phenomena in two parts. I found it informative and fairly disturbing. It also made clear to me one basic problem with AI overall... mostly around how AI has no real way to judge the validity of the information it takes in and regurgitates. People still have to be the arbiters of the content produced and AI isn't being sold in that way.

Postscript advice: Do not, under any circumstances, use an AI chatbot therapist!

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Nobody needs AI to search the Internet, court says in ruling against Google [View all] highplainsdem Jun 10 OP

Wow, this is a great ruling. I hope it holds! SunSeeker Jun 10 #1

Outside of the issue of defamatory statements... reACTIONary Jun 10 #2

You can find them useful. Doesn't change the fact that AI isn't necessary for the task, which these companies are all Karasu Jun 10 #4

Nobody is forcing users to use AI.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #13

Um..yes, they are. "Scrolling down" doesn't change that. Companies forcing the use of AI goes MUCH farther than simple Karasu Jun 10 #17

Unless you check everything in the AI overview - every alleged fact, every quote, every source - you highplainsdem Jun 10 #5

It's not really that hard to check it out.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #12

LOL! In other words, you don't check. And it sounds as if you'd use AI overviews you hadn't bothered highplainsdem Jun 10 #31

If you look at a page from a "regular" web page search, do you.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #34

I've seen news stories including studies about the links in AI overviews often not actually leading highplainsdem Jun 10 #36

I'm focused on the value AI brings to .... reACTIONary Jun 10 #50

AI search on the internet is a parasite killing its host. There's no value in that. The errors make its highplainsdem Jun 10 #51

Well then, if that's the case, eventually..... reACTIONary Jun 10 #52

Of all the silly comparisons. Calculators would never have been widely used if they were as error-prone highplainsdem Jun 10 #57

I sometimes post AI search results here, and.... reACTIONary Thursday #58

The whopper is everything you've said suggesting people should trust AI results. Even AI companies highplainsdem Thursday #61

Not any less trustful than "the internet" itself..... reACTIONary Thursday #67

Again, you're trusting AI summaries known to make mistakes. You're also choosing to use AI tools highplainsdem Thursday #69

Again, I've never accessed anything on the internet... reACTIONary Thursday #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Betty Boom Thursday #68

Thanks for your comments Betty Boom Thursday #71

You are welcome! Here on DU, even those who are a bit... reACTIONary Thursday #74

Unfortunately, I had quite an unpleasant experience to the contrary recently Betty Boom Thursday #75

The problem with AI overviews is that they're not reliable. ShazzieB Jun 10 #14

I think they are more reliable than some make them out to be.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #16

There are still whoppers aplenty. cab67 Jun 10 #38

Plain search used to do that Cirsium Jun 10 #18

Your experience with "plain search" and with... reACTIONary Jun 10 #19

it isn't a matter of opinion Cirsium Jun 10 #20

It seems to be a subjective judgement to me.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #23

OK Cirsium Jun 10 #30

Wow! Thanks.... reACTIONary Jun 10 #32

Thank you Cirsium Thursday #60

I sometimes find them amusing. cab67 Jun 10 #37

And you just admitted you have to wade through irrelevant junk... paleotn Jun 10 #42

Then one has to verify that it's not inaccurate slop GenThePerservering Jun 10 #46

How can you be sure what the agenda of the AI programmer is? Like an algorithm, it can steer us in the direction Martin68 Thursday #78

You make a very good point... reACTIONary Thursday #79

I, too, usually conduct searches about scientific and other "basic facts," and have found some of the AI summaries Martin68 Thursday #80

We were able to do it just fine (in fact, better) BEFORE this immensely destructive shit came along. Karasu Jun 10 #3

Yes. Search was much better before. highplainsdem Jun 10 #6

The quality of their searches declined significantly. hunter Jun 10 #27

AI "search" Be Leave On Jun 10 #7

Profitable, because we are a post-literate society. SouthBayDem Jun 10 #56

Fuck Google! caballojm Jun 10 #8

DuckDuckGo has an AI, but they actually allow you to completely turn it off, and they have a version of their site that Karasu Jun 10 #10

Same here. paleotn Jun 10 #43

Everyone getting those commercials claiming we need a million data centers Bengus81 Jun 10 #9

Here's what's wrong with the massive data centers ... FakeNoose Thursday #65

Their wanting to put one up around Garden City,Ks and it's projected water use Bengus81 Thursday #66

Yes many of these data centers are going up in rural areas, and lack of zoning laws is a big reason FakeNoose Thursday #76

Kick dalton99a Jun 10 #11

I want to know how Progressive dog Jun 10 #15

I have not seen contradictions, but I think vanlassie Jun 10 #22

I have seen something worse than a contradiction. pnwmom Jun 10 #24

Yea that's bad. I would never accept personal info vanlassie Jun 10 #28

You could find it just as easily with a 'precisely composed query' GenThePerservering Jun 10 #47

I've been a heavy user of the internet for many years. vanlassie Thursday #62

Even more reprehensible... GiqueCee Jun 10 #21

Yes. People need to realize that every single writer, visual artist, photographer, singer, musician, highplainsdem Jun 10 #44

Nailed it! GiqueCee Jun 10 #45

It's human nature to expect the biggest reward for the lowest cost. SouthBayDem Jun 10 #53

So the AI bros ripping off the world's intellectual property is just human nature? highplainsdem Thursday #59

Republicans will pass a law making it illegal to restrict AI search Bobstandard Jun 10 #25

'Almost Intelligence' trains from anything it can find (within reason, supposedly) 3825-87867 Jun 10 #26

"Imitation Intelligence" is a good name. hunter Jun 10 #29

It's pretty easy to tell if Republicans are lying!--- Jack Valentino Jun 10 #33

I call it a fancy shorthand for Anti-Intellectualism. SouthBayDem Jun 10 #54

I wish this was here. Figarosmom Jun 10 #35

I probably don't ask complicated questions, but I find the Google AI helpful Bluetus Jun 10 #40

I've asked about current news events Figarosmom Jun 10 #41

That's an astute judge. But it goes beyond that. Bluetus Jun 10 #39

This is something a lot of people don't understand GenThePerservering Jun 10 #49

I heard a good explanation the other day Bluetus Thursday #72

very insightful. that's why hallucinations will never go away altogether. nt scipan Jun 10 #55

People still use Google? It's a spy agency that sells your data. I stopped ages ago. usonian Jun 10 #48

Type -ai at the end of your search and you'll find out how little you need AI Bengus81 Thursday #63

AI regurgitates a lot of garbage and presents itself as fact. Historic NY Thursday #64

AI Chatbots reviewed by Behind the Bastards ihaveaquestion Thursday #70

Google is using AI in the same way that using an algorithm produces search results that benefit advertisers. Martin68 Thursday #77