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53. It's human nature to expect the biggest reward for the lowest cost.

Wed Jun 10, 2026, 11:22 PM

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Like the saying goes, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? 25 years ago there was the controversy over illegal free music downloads on Napster. And today we see two lines of thought, one that news websites shouldn't put up paywalls (hello, how will the reporters get paid for their work?), another that AI devalues knowledge work.

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Nobody needs AI to search the Internet, court says in ruling against Google [View all] highplainsdem Wednesday OP

Wow, this is a great ruling. I hope it holds! SunSeeker Wednesday #1

Outside of the issue of defamatory statements... reACTIONary Wednesday #2

You can find them useful. Doesn't change the fact that AI isn't necessary for the task, which these companies are all Karasu Wednesday #4

Nobody is forcing users to use AI.... reACTIONary Wednesday #13

Um..yes, they are. "Scrolling down" doesn't change that. Companies forcing the use of AI goes MUCH farther than simple Karasu Wednesday #17

Unless you check everything in the AI overview - every alleged fact, every quote, every source - you highplainsdem Wednesday #5

It's not really that hard to check it out.... reACTIONary Wednesday #12

LOL! In other words, you don't check. And it sounds as if you'd use AI overviews you hadn't bothered highplainsdem Wednesday #31

If you look at a page from a "regular" web page search, do you.... reACTIONary Wednesday #34

I've seen news stories including studies about the links in AI overviews often not actually leading highplainsdem Wednesday #36

I'm focused on the value AI brings to .... reACTIONary Wednesday #50

AI search on the internet is a parasite killing its host. There's no value in that. The errors make its highplainsdem Wednesday #51

Well then, if that's the case, eventually..... reACTIONary Wednesday #52

Of all the silly comparisons. Calculators would never have been widely used if they were as error-prone highplainsdem Wednesday #57

I sometimes post AI search results here, and.... reACTIONary Yesterday #58

The whopper is everything you've said suggesting people should trust AI results. Even AI companies highplainsdem Yesterday #61

Not any less trustful than "the internet" itself..... reACTIONary 20 hrs ago #67

Again, you're trusting AI summaries known to make mistakes. You're also choosing to use AI tools highplainsdem 20 hrs ago #69

Again, I've never accessed anything on the internet... reACTIONary 19 hrs ago #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Betty Boom 20 hrs ago #68

Thanks for your comments Betty Boom 19 hrs ago #71

You are welcome! Here on DU, even those who are a bit... reACTIONary 19 hrs ago #74

Unfortunately, I had quite an unpleasant experience to the contrary recently Betty Boom 19 hrs ago #75

The problem with AI overviews is that they're not reliable. ShazzieB Wednesday #14

I think they are more reliable than some make them out to be.... reACTIONary Wednesday #16

There are still whoppers aplenty. cab67 Wednesday #38

Plain search used to do that Cirsium Wednesday #18

Your experience with "plain search" and with... reACTIONary Wednesday #19

it isn't a matter of opinion Cirsium Wednesday #20

It seems to be a subjective judgement to me.... reACTIONary Wednesday #23

OK Cirsium Wednesday #30

Wow! Thanks.... reACTIONary Wednesday #32

Thank you Cirsium Yesterday #60

I sometimes find them amusing. cab67 Wednesday #37

And you just admitted you have to wade through irrelevant junk... paleotn Wednesday #42

Then one has to verify that it's not inaccurate slop GenThePerservering Wednesday #46

How can you be sure what the agenda of the AI programmer is? Like an algorithm, it can steer us in the direction Martin68 19 hrs ago #78

You make a very good point... reACTIONary 17 hrs ago #79

I, too, usually conduct searches about scientific and other "basic facts," and have found some of the AI summaries Martin68 15 hrs ago #80

We were able to do it just fine (in fact, better) BEFORE this immensely destructive shit came along. Karasu Wednesday #3

Yes. Search was much better before. highplainsdem Wednesday #6

The quality of their searches declined significantly. hunter Wednesday #27

AI "search" Be Leave On Wednesday #7

Profitable, because we are a post-literate society. SouthBayDem Wednesday #56

Fuck Google! caballojm Wednesday #8

DuckDuckGo has an AI, but they actually allow you to completely turn it off, and they have a version of their site that Karasu Wednesday #10

Same here. paleotn Wednesday #43

Everyone getting those commercials claiming we need a million data centers Bengus81 Wednesday #9

Here's what's wrong with the massive data centers ... FakeNoose 22 hrs ago #65

Their wanting to put one up around Garden City,Ks and it's projected water use Bengus81 21 hrs ago #66

Yes many of these data centers are going up in rural areas, and lack of zoning laws is a big reason FakeNoose 19 hrs ago #76

Kick dalton99a Wednesday #11

I want to know how Progressive dog Wednesday #15

I have not seen contradictions, but I think vanlassie Wednesday #22

I have seen something worse than a contradiction. pnwmom Wednesday #24

Yea that's bad. I would never accept personal info vanlassie Wednesday #28

You could find it just as easily with a 'precisely composed query' GenThePerservering Wednesday #47

I've been a heavy user of the internet for many years. vanlassie Yesterday #62

Even more reprehensible... GiqueCee Wednesday #21

Yes. People need to realize that every single writer, visual artist, photographer, singer, musician, highplainsdem Wednesday #44

Nailed it! GiqueCee Wednesday #45

It's human nature to expect the biggest reward for the lowest cost. SouthBayDem Wednesday #53

So the AI bros ripping off the world's intellectual property is just human nature? highplainsdem Yesterday #59

Republicans will pass a law making it illegal to restrict AI search Bobstandard Wednesday #25

'Almost Intelligence' trains from anything it can find (within reason, supposedly) 3825-87867 Wednesday #26

"Imitation Intelligence" is a good name. hunter Wednesday #29

It's pretty easy to tell if Republicans are lying!--- Jack Valentino Wednesday #33

I call it a fancy shorthand for Anti-Intellectualism. SouthBayDem Wednesday #54

I wish this was here. Figarosmom Wednesday #35

I probably don't ask complicated questions, but I find the Google AI helpful Bluetus Wednesday #40

I've asked about current news events Figarosmom Wednesday #41

That's an astute judge. But it goes beyond that. Bluetus Wednesday #39

This is something a lot of people don't understand GenThePerservering Wednesday #49

I heard a good explanation the other day Bluetus 19 hrs ago #72

very insightful. that's why hallucinations will never go away altogether. nt scipan Wednesday #55

People still use Google? It's a spy agency that sells your data. I stopped ages ago. usonian Wednesday #48

Type -ai at the end of your search and you'll find out how little you need AI Bengus81 23 hrs ago #63

AI regurgitates a lot of garbage and presents itself as fact. Historic NY 22 hrs ago #64

AI Chatbots reviewed by Behind the Bastards ihaveaquestion 20 hrs ago #70

Google is using AI in the same way that using an algorithm produces search results that benefit advertisers. Martin68 19 hrs ago #77