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44. Yes. People need to realize that every single writer, visual artist, photographer, singer, musician,

Wed Jun 10, 2026, 09:35 PM

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actor and filmmaker they care about has probably had work they put a lot of effort into stolen to train AI. Stolen by tech bros who really don't care about any of that work and knowledge and culture they've expropriated, but simply want to profit from AI tools intended to create imitations of it when used by people who don't have that knowledge and talent.

A lot of people still aren't aware that the entire generative AI industry is built on theft.

And unfortunately there are apparently a lot of people who find the pretense of knowledge and talent and skills they don't have so tempting they'll use AI even when they're aware of the theft, and they try to find excuses for it, and try to show off their fraudulent AI-enabled "accomplishments."

People don't need AI to write or to be creative in all the many ways humans can be creative. But AI peddlers want them to believe they do.

It's such destructive tech.

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Nobody needs AI to search the Internet, court says in ruling against Google [View all] highplainsdem Yesterday OP

Wow, this is a great ruling. I hope it holds! SunSeeker Yesterday #1

Outside of the issue of defamatory statements... reACTIONary Yesterday #2

You can find them useful. Doesn't change the fact that AI isn't necessary for the task, which these companies are all Karasu Yesterday #4

Nobody is forcing users to use AI.... reACTIONary Yesterday #13

Um..yes, they are. "Scrolling down" doesn't change that. Companies forcing the use of AI goes MUCH farther than simple Karasu Yesterday #17

Unless you check everything in the AI overview - every alleged fact, every quote, every source - you highplainsdem Yesterday #5

It's not really that hard to check it out.... reACTIONary Yesterday #12

LOL! In other words, you don't check. And it sounds as if you'd use AI overviews you hadn't bothered highplainsdem Yesterday #31

If you look at a page from a "regular" web page search, do you.... reACTIONary Yesterday #34

I've seen news stories including studies about the links in AI overviews often not actually leading highplainsdem Yesterday #36

I'm focused on the value AI brings to .... reACTIONary 23 hrs ago #50

AI search on the internet is a parasite killing its host. There's no value in that. The errors make its highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #51

Well then, if that's the case, eventually..... reACTIONary 23 hrs ago #52

Of all the silly comparisons. Calculators would never have been widely used if they were as error-prone highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #57

I sometimes post AI search results here, and.... reACTIONary 22 hrs ago #58

The whopper is everything you've said suggesting people should trust AI results. Even AI companies highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #61

Not any less trustful than "the internet" itself..... reACTIONary 12 hrs ago #67

Again, you're trusting AI summaries known to make mistakes. You're also choosing to use AI tools highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #69

Again, I've never accessed anything on the internet... reACTIONary 11 hrs ago #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Betty Boom 12 hrs ago #68

Thanks for your comments Betty Boom 11 hrs ago #71

You are welcome! Here on DU, even those who are a bit... reACTIONary 11 hrs ago #74

Unfortunately, I had quite an unpleasant experience to the contrary recently Betty Boom 11 hrs ago #75

The problem with AI overviews is that they're not reliable. ShazzieB Yesterday #14

I think they are more reliable than some make them out to be.... reACTIONary Yesterday #16

There are still whoppers aplenty. cab67 Yesterday #38

Plain search used to do that Cirsium Yesterday #18

Your experience with "plain search" and with... reACTIONary Yesterday #19

it isn't a matter of opinion Cirsium Yesterday #20

It seems to be a subjective judgement to me.... reACTIONary Yesterday #23

OK Cirsium Yesterday #30

Wow! Thanks.... reACTIONary Yesterday #32

Thank you Cirsium 22 hrs ago #60

I sometimes find them amusing. cab67 Yesterday #37

And you just admitted you have to wade through irrelevant junk... paleotn Yesterday #42

Then one has to verify that it's not inaccurate slop GenThePerservering 23 hrs ago #46

How can you be sure what the agenda of the AI programmer is? Like an algorithm, it can steer us in the direction Martin68 11 hrs ago #78

You make a very good point... reACTIONary 9 hrs ago #79

I, too, usually conduct searches about scientific and other "basic facts," and have found some of the AI summaries Martin68 7 hrs ago #80

We were able to do it just fine (in fact, better) BEFORE this immensely destructive shit came along. Karasu Yesterday #3

Yes. Search was much better before. highplainsdem Yesterday #6

The quality of their searches declined significantly. hunter Yesterday #27

AI "search" Be Leave On Yesterday #7

Profitable, because we are a post-literate society. SouthBayDem 22 hrs ago #56

Fuck Google! caballojm Yesterday #8

DuckDuckGo has an AI, but they actually allow you to completely turn it off, and they have a version of their site that Karasu Yesterday #10

Same here. paleotn Yesterday #43

Everyone getting those commercials claiming we need a million data centers Bengus81 Yesterday #9

Here's what's wrong with the massive data centers ... FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #65

Their wanting to put one up around Garden City,Ks and it's projected water use Bengus81 13 hrs ago #66

Yes many of these data centers are going up in rural areas, and lack of zoning laws is a big reason FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #76

Kick dalton99a Yesterday #11

I want to know how Progressive dog Yesterday #15

I have not seen contradictions, but I think vanlassie Yesterday #22

I have seen something worse than a contradiction. pnwmom Yesterday #24

Yea that's bad. I would never accept personal info vanlassie Yesterday #28

You could find it just as easily with a 'precisely composed query' GenThePerservering 23 hrs ago #47

I've been a heavy user of the internet for many years. vanlassie 21 hrs ago #62

Even more reprehensible... GiqueCee Yesterday #21

Yes. People need to realize that every single writer, visual artist, photographer, singer, musician, highplainsdem Yesterday #44

Nailed it! GiqueCee Yesterday #45

It's human nature to expect the biggest reward for the lowest cost. SouthBayDem 23 hrs ago #53

So the AI bros ripping off the world's intellectual property is just human nature? highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #59

Republicans will pass a law making it illegal to restrict AI search Bobstandard Yesterday #25

'Almost Intelligence' trains from anything it can find (within reason, supposedly) 3825-87867 Yesterday #26

"Imitation Intelligence" is a good name. hunter Yesterday #29

It's pretty easy to tell if Republicans are lying!--- Jack Valentino Yesterday #33

I call it a fancy shorthand for Anti-Intellectualism. SouthBayDem 23 hrs ago #54

I wish this was here. Figarosmom Yesterday #35

I probably don't ask complicated questions, but I find the Google AI helpful Bluetus Yesterday #40

I've asked about current news events Figarosmom Yesterday #41

That's an astute judge. But it goes beyond that. Bluetus Yesterday #39

This is something a lot of people don't understand GenThePerservering 23 hrs ago #49

I heard a good explanation the other day Bluetus 11 hrs ago #72

very insightful. that's why hallucinations will never go away altogether. nt scipan 23 hrs ago #55

People still use Google? It's a spy agency that sells your data. I stopped ages ago. usonian 23 hrs ago #48

Type -ai at the end of your search and you'll find out how little you need AI Bengus81 15 hrs ago #63

AI regurgitates a lot of garbage and presents itself as fact. Historic NY 14 hrs ago #64

AI Chatbots reviewed by Behind the Bastards ihaveaquestion 12 hrs ago #70

Google is using AI in the same way that using an algorithm produces search results that benefit advertisers. Martin68 11 hrs ago #77