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Old Crank

(7,323 posts)
10. A couple of points about taxation
Sat May 23, 2026, 12:23 PM
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The US and Germany have a tax treaty. I assume they have treaties with other countries also.
Since I live in Germany, Germany gets first bite of the apple. I get taxed on income at German rates. Then I file US forms and get taxed on income that the Germans didn't tax on and or any amount that the US would tax more than Germany on.

An example.
A couple of years ago we sold our US house. We got dinged for Capital gains from the US because there are no capital gains on houses if you have help them for 5 -10 years.

We paid very little US tax until my wife retired. Now our German tax advisor has managed to reduce our tax burden here but... we now pay more to the US.

If you live in Switzerland it is even messier because income taxes are by canton....

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A Dual-Citizenship Question wyn borkins Saturday #1
Couple of tax-related dual-citizenship facts... BobsYourUncle Saturday #5
Watching Out...(Now) wyn borkins Saturday #6
A couple of points about taxation Old Crank Saturday #10
Yeah, I skipped a lot of stuff... BobsYourUncle Saturday #22
Yup. Old Crank Sunday #27
If like most workers you've paid taxes Buddyzbuddy Saturday #2
Remove Miller liberalgunwilltravel Saturday #3
I have a suggestion for a question on a tax form. 70sEraVet Saturday #4
Another bullshit IRS box to just ignore. Avoiding taxes is SO easy for SO many. Callie1979 Saturday #7
The Billionaires, popsdenver Saturday #8
In Europe we have both Old Crank Saturday #11
BINGO NC popsdenver Saturday #14
and yet their tax systems seem to work far better than OURS. Callie1979 Saturday #17
I'm all for it. 100s of well-paying careers can easily avoid taxes. Cant avoid a VAT Callie1979 Saturday #18
True popsdenver Saturday #21
Wasn't it already decided this question was illegal? Bayard Saturday #9
Not sure Old Crank Saturday #12
Now that I think about it..... Bayard Saturday #23
They also wanted to put it on the voter registration forms BumRushDaShow Saturday #25
Well, let's see here, someone who is not a US citizen, but on a green card, check the box.... ashredux Saturday #13
Imagine being that dumb. SamuelAdams Saturday #15
That question is insane. Even undocumented residents are required to file tax returns (especially alwaysinasnit Saturday #16
Even illegal income is taxable!! Callie1979 Saturday #19
... alwaysinasnit Saturday #20
Will this include Melania............ turbinetree Saturday #24
Well then green card holders and those who are undocumented choie Saturday #26
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