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stopdiggin

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18. the point (fairly obviously) - is that 'no taxation without representation'

Reply to thought crime (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 7, 2025, 11:08 AM

10 hrs ago

cannot possibly be construed as "representation equal to taxation". Which is not only hugely absurd, but also represents a glaring injustice (and the undermining of our democratic process).

"One man, one vote" is a far better way of making the (fairness) point.
(and there is a quite valid point to be made there .. )

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Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as Trump threatens California [View all] highplainsdem 21 hrs ago OP

I'm starting to think secession shouldn't be off table. Of course, would have to move from my rube red state. Silent Type 21 hrs ago #1

Trump is trying to start a civil war it looks like. Irish_Dem 6 hrs ago #26

Aren't those taxes paid by individual taxpayers to the US Treasury? MichMan 21 hrs ago #2

Not all - there are federal excise taxes on alcoholic beverages for example DBoon 21 hrs ago #3

and paying into the CA system (however that works?) stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #8

There could be an escrow account for us Tumbulu 19 hrs ago #4

which would disallow the federal gov from presenting me with the bill? stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #7

In time, yes Tumbulu 13 hrs ago #14

agree with about 90% stopdiggin 10 hrs ago #17

About damned time! flying-skeleton 19 hrs ago #5

"Maybe it's time to cut that off" could be a campaign slogan. PermatexNo.2 19 hrs ago #6

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #22

great talking point! but as a practical matter ... stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #9

California can make a case for "No taxation without Representation" thought crime 14 hrs ago #10

That would mean that a Wyoming taxpayer would pay $66 dollars in income taxes for every $1 a California resident pays MichMan 13 hrs ago #12

No, that would be Absurd. And Wyoming having the same level of representation as CA is just as Absurd. thought crime 11 hrs ago #16

the point (fairly obviously) - is that 'no taxation without representation' stopdiggin 10 hrs ago #18

Have you ever heard the slogan "no taxation without representation"? thought crime 9 hrs ago #20

and my post pointed to the fact that your quote stopdiggin 8 hrs ago #21

Happens all the time with city income taxes MichMan 6 hrs ago #25

CA has a LOT more Reps in the House. The founders worked out a reasonable balance Attilatheblond 5 hrs ago #28

It should have more Senators too, and some of the founders knew it. thought crime 5 hrs ago #29

Ah, yes, tranny of the majority. Nope that isn't a good way to govern. Attilatheblond 5 hrs ago #30

But they are represented. Igel 7 hrs ago #24

Newsom's argument also falls flat if you take it down to a local level MichMan 6 hrs ago #27

What would Gov Newsom's response be if for example Beverly Hills and Bel Air decided to withhold all their state taxes? MichMan 14 hrs ago #11

So you support Taco cutting off services to California? Scrivener7 28 min ago #32

""Maybe it's time to cut that off," he added." Maybe just "redirect" the tax money to areas tfg cut? nt mitch96 13 hrs ago #13

Sounds like a plan! Fla Dem 11 hrs ago #15

Yup, just maybe time, Newsom. republianmushroom 9 hrs ago #19

I did not think he was speaking about income tax. quaint 7 hrs ago #23

Seems like Rebl2 4 hrs ago #31