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AloeVera

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95. Now you're backtracking.

Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:12 AM

Jun 3

"They're the ones who shot and killed four Gazans after its warehouses (where they hoarded food) were raided by civilians."

You specifically said that was a Hamas warehouse were they (Hamas) hoarded food.

Glad to see that you acknowledge the starvation. There are others who deny it. Of course they were starving people, I said that too. But there were 2 people crushed and 2 people shot. I don't know if ordinary people carry around guns in Gaza. You of course think it was Hamas. But in case you didn't know, criminal gangs have been allowed to run rampant and are responsible for most of the looting for many months. I am neither Hamas or a Hamas supporter, but I do read reports by UN agencies on the ground.

After 3 months of food blockade, this was bound to happen. You would do the same for your family and even yourself. In a sane and just world the starvation would never have been allowed to happen. But we live in a terrible world.

I think that truly feeling bad for Palestinians would entail wanting to end their suffering. Continuing to put the blame on Hamas, and Hamas only, while ignoring the deliberateness of Israel's cruel policies, is not going to help end Palestinian suffering.

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Palestinians gunned down while trying to reach food aid site in Gaza, hospital says [View all] muriel_volestrangler Jun 1 OP

So this is claudette Jun 1 #1

USA, USA, USA. twodogsbarking Jun 1 #2

"Gaza aid group denies claims of IDF attack near Rafah distribution point." madaboutharry Jun 1 #3

the red cross/red crescent says dozens killed moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #9

All of these organizations in Gaza are controlled by Hamas. madaboutharry Jun 1 #12

the israeli government is a terrorist organization moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #14

Yawn. madaboutharry Jun 1 #16

translation moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #22

Is this an intentionally self-deprecating remark or accidentally so? Beastly Boy Jun 1 #25

6 REC'S to 1 as of this posting. Your 1 REC was from B-Boy. 'nuff said. Exp Jun 1 #35

Thank you for the shout-out. But who is counting? Beastly Boy Jun 2 #92

If 6 times more people think someone is wrong, in opinion or fact, that 1 person probably is wrong. Exp Jun 3 #101

It can also mean that 6 times more people amounts to only 6 people who think I am wrong. Beastly Boy Jun 3 #102

Until there is proof cabotnn22 Jun 1 #19

the orginization that calimed certain people were on its board when they werent? moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #23

The organization that was at the scene to witness the event and videotape it. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #27

Agree claudette Jun 1 #29

Agreed n/t Goddessartist Jun 1 #32

And you now this how? claudette Jun 1 #28

Greatest excuse ever invented to indiscriminately murder and mass-starve civilians in aid of ethnic cleansing AloeVera Jun 1 #44

Yep n/t Goddessartist Jun 1 #59

The Gaza "aid group" is a shady sham. AloeVera Jun 1 #74

Hey, our own American media runs lies every day originating from a terrorist organization Jack Valentino Jun 1 #79

And we all know that thre is not a single terrorist leader in Gaza who would benefit from instigating violence Beastly Boy Jun 1 #4

Nice deflection about the BBC muriel_volestrangler Jun 1 #5

Sure, it's not the lying "local reporters" that BBC admits it employs, it's the BBC. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #6

The Telegraph is balanced at least cabotnn22 Jun 1 #20

"There were many martyrs, including women," the 40-year-old resident said. AZLD4Candidate Jun 1 #7

bs moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #11

From the OP article: AZLD4Candidate Jun 1 #13

from reuters moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #17

Your link is not from Reuters Beastly Boy Jun 1 #31

That "aid organization" is bullshit. AloeVera Jun 1 #67

I would also wonder how Hamas fighters could be be hiding in plain sight AZLD4Candidate Jun 1 #68

Israel is to blame for many things. Honestly time to realize that. AloeVera Jun 1 #70

"The Israel Defense Forces said they were "currently unaware" of injuries Rob H. Jun 1 #8

I love this doublespeak: Beastly Boy Jun 1 #36

its time for a coalition of countries to remove the israeli government moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #10

And the elected Hamas government that did the action that started this war gets off scot free? AZLD4Candidate Jun 1 #15

Started this war? TiberiusB Jun 1 #76

Following that logic, China should attack Japan because those wounds aren't healed. AZLD4Candidate Jun 1 #77

And who is arguing for Israel to just suffer? TiberiusB Jun 2 #81

"Nobody here is supporting any terrorist attacks on Israel, but..." Beastly Boy Jun 2 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Jun 1 #65

wouldnt have to invade moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2 #80

GHF and Israel are denying it cabotnn22 Jun 1 #18

I read Harretz, the newspaper that netanyaho is threatening to ban in Israel.... Butterflylady Jun 1 #21

Fine, here's Haaretz cabotnn22 Jun 1 #24

It's not Haaretz saying that. It's the new "IDF says...". AloeVera Jun 1 #34

"Why is it so hard to believe Palestinians?" Which Palestinians are you talking about? Beastly Boy Jun 1 #40

Just the fact that thousands of people have to get up before dawn to wait for food burns my soul. mjvpi Jun 1 #62

I know.. me too.. AloeVera Jun 1 #66

"Gaza is the low point in my lifetime as far as the extremes of what humans can do to each other." EX500rider Jun 1 #78

Point taken. I am not young. I was not aware of my country directly supplying high tech weaponry..... mjvpi Jun 2 #82

Lies. Already being retracted by some news sources toesonthenose Jun 1 #26

Oh, yes claudette Jun 1 #30

And the Hamas health agency never lies Beastly Boy Jun 1 #43

It would be useful to link to those news sources (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 1 #33

It was easy enough to look them up. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #42

No "walking back" or claim that the info in the OP is "lies" in those excerpts (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 1 #54

Of course there was. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #58

The OP mentioned the initial Israeli and GHF response muriel_volestrangler Jun 1 #61

Your OP cites The Guardian: "Palestinians gunned down while trying to reach food aid site in Gaza, hospital says" Beastly Boy Jun 1 #71

No. You're making stuff up. muriel_volestrangler Jun 1 #75

you mean th egroup that murdered 15 aid workers and tried to cover it up? moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #39

Hamas murdered 15 aid workers and tried to cover it up? Why isn't it in the news? Beastly Boy Jun 1 #45

the IDF is a terrorist organization moonshinegnomie Jun 1 #63

Sure, designated so by you. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #72

Fucking insane, hateful bastards. This shit just doesn't stop. Who are you going to believe? Just view the before and Exp Jun 1 #37

Who are you referring to as "fucking insane hateful bastards"? Beastly Boy Jun 1 #46

"Don't believe your eyes, just believe what we say" Got it. Exp Jun 1 #48

You probably don't even realize how ironic your post is. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #53

Using food as bait. nt moniss Jun 1 #38

Is the UN using food as bait to..(well, I am not sure who they are supposed to bait and for what purpose)? Beastly Boy Jun 1 #41

Using ANY food deliveries as bait to slaughter the "animals", right? Exp Jun 1 #50

Good to know it was a general statement that includes the UN Beastly Boy Jun 1 #55

It's not that complicated. Say, much less complicated than bombing an entire culture out of existence. Exp Jun 1 #57

Apparently, staying on subject is complicated enough for you. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #60

Throughout the destruction of Gaza moniss Jun 1 #64

So "Using food as bait. nt" was not meant to be an accurate statement. Beastly Boy Jun 1 #73

There have been so many lies coming out of the . . . Richard D Jun 1 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 1 #49

No comment. AloeVera Jun 1 #52

Could you post a photo of that? Richard D Jun 1 #56

The BBC just admitted they were duped. Mosby Jun 2 #84

I see... AloeVera Jun 2 #86

Call me crazy, but I think a massacre not happening at the food distribution center is a pretty convincing Beastly Boy Jun 2 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Jun 1 #51

BBC admits they were duped. Mosby Jun 2 #83

No, that's the BBC saying an Al Jazeera journalist made a false claim about a video muriel_volestrangler Jun 2 #85

And some are so quick to try to exonerate the IDF AloeVera Jun 2 #87

And some are so quick to blame the IDF cabotnn22 Jun 2 #89

Not quick, just maybe a little more up-to-date and not so gullible. AloeVera Jun 2 #90

I do think the WFP works with Hamas cabotnn22 Jun 2 #91

Now you're backtracking. AloeVera Jun 3 #95

Another massacre. Today, at least another 24 killed. AloeVera Jun 3 #97

Your headline attributes the claim to Hamas terrorists. lapucelle Jun 3 #98

There is no evidence of the rafah incident besides this clip Mosby Jun 2 #88

There are eye-witnesses. Some have been quoted in this thread. muriel_volestrangler Jun 3 #96

From the OP's link: "Officials at the field hospital did not say who opened fire..." lapucelle Jun 3 #99

Whenever Hamas does gun down people, yes, it's disgusting. muriel_volestrangler Jun 3 #100

Dozens of casualties at a hospital does not amount to evidence of anything taking place at the distribution center, Beastly Boy Jun 3 #103