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Bluetus

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44. Well, it is possible to set up manufacturing plants quickly in some cases
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 06:15 PM
Apr 4
These dumbasses think that a manufacturing plant can "instantly" appear in a few months or a year.


That's not the big problem. The big problem is that if a company is investing literally billions of dollars, they want to be damn sure they will have a market for their product and that the rules won't change for at least 10-20 years.

Here are a couple of examples:

Hyundai/Kia made a huge investment in Georgia. They already had ICE manufacturing there, but when the Inflation Reduction Act suddenly cut them off from importing EVs (which previously received $7500 tax credit), they bit the bullet and committed to large-scale EV production in GA. And that meant they basically ate the lost $7500 credit for about a year. They are continuing with some of their EV plans, but the new rules make it unclear if these vehicles will get hit with a tariff on the foreign content. Previously they had a very aggressive EV introduction plan involving many new models over the next 24 months. It looks like they are stopping most of that to see what happens. They will sell those vehicles in Europe instead. That means we will probably see substantial layoffs in GA.

Stellantis organized its production of Chrysler, Jeeps and Ram around the USMCA, which Trump negotiated. That meant some of their production was in Canada and Mexico. But those Canadian and Mexican plants use transmissions, engines, and other components made in the USA. Now with the tariffs, they are completely screwed, so they just laid off 900 workers in Indiana who made transmissions that will now probably be subject to Canadian tariffs when they are sent to Windsor, and then the finished product will be hit with Trump's tariffs when the Windsor product is shipped to the US for retail. They played by the rules and got screwed.

THIS is why it will take a long time to see any real change in manufacturing. Nobody can possibly trust Trump. PM Macron yesterday said the French will make no more investments in the US and he encouraged the other EU countries to do the same.

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This is all on you and your fucking republican party. You will be fine Autumn Apr 3 #1
Manufacturers don't pay the tariffs. Why would they Phoenix61 Apr 3 #2
Yep, they're going to play the wait-until-he's-gone card. LudwigPastorius Apr 3 #22
Also these variables: no_hypocrisy Apr 3 #3
Excellent points DaBronx Apr 3 #28
That Kennedy is a true malignant idiot! ananda Apr 3 #4
I had the same reaction DaBronx Apr 3 #29
I'm hoping for a massive asteroid impact more than ever now. Basso8vb Apr 3 #5
Here you go DaBronx Apr 3 #31
Yeah! They need to grow their coffee and bananas right here in good ol' Amurika! Kablooie Apr 3 #6
Yeah! Plenty of good farmland up in N Dakota. Norrrm Apr 3 #9
Tariffs on Madagascar BidenRocks Apr 3 #10
Cornpone Kennedy Beachnutt Apr 3 #7
We used to have a selection of products to buy. BidenRocks Apr 3 #8
I wish he meant what I thought he meant when I read the headline, but no mahina Apr 3 #11
You own it Kennedy. travelingthrulife Apr 3 #12
Just being dead is to damn easy on them. republianmushroom Apr 3 #13
Hey Jonnie can you recall what happened in the impeachment hearings............... turbinetree Apr 3 #14
I wonder how they felt EndlessWire Apr 3 #15
Foghorn Leghorn has more credibility. dchill Apr 3 #16
This is "Pandemic" economics all over again. It's the same schtick without killing a million people... yet n/t Cheezoholic Apr 3 #17
"Nobody knows what the impact of these tariffs is going to be on the economy." He is either 1. extremely stupid or 2. a retread Apr 3 #18
alarming thought: if he gets his way, the dollar may no longer be the world reserve currency paulkienitz Apr 3 #19
Yup, Agent Krasnov's very dangerous gamble zorbasd Apr 4 #51
No one seems to remember why Dr. T Apr 3 #20
But some companies will say they are moving manufacturing back thought crime Apr 3 #26
General Electric was one of the first multi-national corporations to do it FakeNoose Apr 4 #40
GE was the inspiration for my post. Dr. T Apr 4 #41
GE shut down their lightbulb plant and laid everyone off, early 1970s FakeNoose Apr 4 #50
I'm drawing a nice GE pension Dr. T Apr 4 #59
Ronald Reagan was a total free trader Mblaze Apr 3 #21
There are actually 8.6 million jobs openings that remain open due to... Justice matters. Apr 3 #23
Not to worry... BurnDoubt Apr 3 #24
This is an egregiously bad headline since he's quoting Keynes' criticism of overusing long term models in policymaking mathematic Apr 3 #25
I wish. Include Don Old McKinley and it Hassler Apr 3 #27
Remember Foxconn ? Inkey Apr 3 #30
I've often wondered what Dr. T Apr 4 #60
It's always a shame when they speak metaphorically Orrex Apr 4 #32
if globalisation is the "Cat", and de-globalization is the "Bag"... Layzeebeaver Apr 4 #33
Oh, so NOW they notice the face eating leopards sakabatou Apr 4 #34
In both the long and short terms, Sen. John Kennedy remains a clueless shithead. (nt) Paladin Apr 4 #35
He is a real MF. Not stupid but plays the part. MF twodogsbarking Apr 4 #36
From John's lips to god's ears. AllyCat Apr 4 #37
'We're All Dead': azureblue Apr 4 #38
"Nobody knows...". Shouldn't you have to know that before acting? Grins Apr 4 #39
I'm all for that asshat Kennedy dying.....make it soon please Bengus81 Apr 4 #42
Which one? Crowman2009 Apr 4 #43
Well, it is possible to set up manufacturing plants quickly in some cases Bluetus Apr 4 #44
We have what happened during his first term as an example BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #46
All the CHIPS Act investments are at risk for the same reason Bluetus Apr 4 #52
"Of course, Trump wants these companies to come to him and give his a few million bucks" BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #53
If we can retake the House at the midterms Bluetus Apr 4 #57
Five Years Is Optimistic ProfessorGAC Apr 4 #45
And that might be with skipping "enviornmental impact" studies BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #47
Good Point ProfessorGAC Apr 4 #48
I hadn't seen any mention of impact studies BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #49
Those Sorts Of Things... ProfessorGAC Apr 4 #55
"Nobody knows what the impact of these tariffs is going to be on the economy." regnaD kciN Apr 4 #54
Right! "Life sucks and then you die. Get over it." - John "Fake Home-spun Yokel" Kennedy (R-LA) Bristlecone Apr 4 #56
Something else we need to consider here jmowreader Apr 4 #58
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