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Wiz Imp

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19. At this point, I'm inclined to say they are still honest
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 10:50 AM
Apr 4

If the Trump administration were to fudge the numbers, they'd want them to look a whole lot better than this. Last month Trump bragged about the drop in Federal Government jobs. This report shows a drop of just 4000 Federal jobs. surely Trump wants that number to be a whole lot bigger. He also bragged about an increase in manufacturing jobs. This report shows a super anemic gain in manufacturing of just 1000.

The report also showed big downward revision to the previously published numbers for January and February.

To top it all, the massive layoffs and firings of federal employees are still not showing up in these numbers. Since many were court ordered to be reinstated, most have apparently not been removed from the counts yet. According to the New York Times, at least 60,000 people have been fired. If they were included in the report, the gain in jobs would be much lower.

While the top line job increase number looks OK, looking at the details, this was not a positive report at all. Future months (especially when the federal job cuts start being accounted for) will look much worse.

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An independent group gab13by13 Apr 4 #1
yep. nt ImNotGod Apr 4 #4
That other group mainly polls their own subscribers BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #7
The ADP numbers are "actuals" for about 20% of the private workforce. How they estimate the other 80% progree Apr 4 #10
How can so many people get laid off and the numbers rise? Weird? walkingman Apr 4 #2
A lot of them may not have filed for UE yet due to court rulings BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #6
And both surveys were taken in the week containing March 12, if the usual practice was followed progree Apr 4 #8
And there have been a billion court rulings over that time BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #9
UE #'s TalentAgency Apr 4 #13
Most data is by "survey" BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #16
Wrong. Wiz Imp Apr 4 #18
BLS does their various "surveys" BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #20
No. You are completely 100% wrong Wiz Imp Apr 4 #23
"jobs numbers are calculated by BLS employees located in DC " BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #25
I don't know why you refuse to accept it, but you still have several facts wrong. Wiz Imp Apr 4 #28
"The national job numbers are calculated by plugging the survey responses into a mathematical formula. " BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #29
OK. One last response and I'm done. Wiz Imp Apr 4 #30
"How is that ignoring it?" BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #31
I'm delurking long enough to note that this week's report on unemployment claims numbers is here too. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 4 #27
Are the drumpf administration numbers reliable? biophile Apr 4 #3
to answer, no, there is no way he will allow any negative reports. nt ImNotGod Apr 4 #5
At this point, I'm inclined to say they are still honest Wiz Imp Apr 4 #19
Who's hiring? mdbl Apr 4 #11
The "health" cuts just started up towards the end of last month and into this month BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #12
From the source, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics: mahatmakanejeeves Apr 4 #14
The economy is propelled by the last of the momentum Marthe48 Apr 4 #15
The last sputtering gasps of the Biden Boom! Finished in 2 months by an orange bloated lying fraudster wolfie001 Apr 4 #17
I just saw in the linked article from CNBC Wiz Imp Apr 4 #21
But how many have been reinstated by the courts? BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #22
The best I can tell about 25,000 have been reinstated by the courts. Wiz Imp Apr 4 #24
I found the NYT is doing a running tally and apparently the "275,000" is just an "announced" number BumRushDaShow Apr 4 #26
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