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Ms. Toad

(39,025 posts)
39. Under current law, yes.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 06:45 PM
Jul 5

Because 5 of the justices said the order was unconstitutional - and that the individuals Trump would exclude are birthright citizens by virtue of the constitution. Kavanaugh dissented in part because he believes their citizenship is statutory - and if it is statutory, it can be changed by statue.

So if a law is passed today, and interpreted by the same court, without any justices changing their understanding of the 14th amendment, it would be declared unconstitutional. But that's a lot of ifs, which is the reason courts don't issue advisory opinions. Nothing is certain until all of the justices have heard a specific case, read all of the draft opinions, and issued their orders.

But the contention you made, to which I responded, had nothing to do with that hypothetical case. You claimed that his dissent demonstrated he did not understand that Congress cannot change the Constitution.

He said no such thing (as I have repeatedly explained), and nothing Janai Nelson said suggests she believes Kavanaugh's dissent expresses a belief that Congress can override the Constitution. She was expressing an opinion on a potential new law by Congress, not explaining Kavanaugh's dissent.

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Kavanaugh doesn't understand the constitution DemocracyForever Jul 1 #1
Or he was trying to give trump Figarosmom Jul 1 #2
Congressional law can never override the constitution DemocracyForever Jul 1 #3
They can always pass a law to give the Supreme Court another shot to get it "right". Ilikepurple Jul 1 #8
It would need to be a legal move DemocracyForever Jul 2 #13
I never said reconsider the case. An actual law could be rightly challenged and reach the Supreme Court. Ilikepurple Jul 2 #14
Again, Congressional law can't override the constitution. DemocracyForever Jul 2 #17
What would you be saying if the numbers for this case were reversed? Ilikepurple Jul 2 #20
The 14th amendment is clear DemocracyForever Jul 3 #21
This is still just an opinion and one that doesn't carry the force of law if the Supreme Court decides otherwise. Ilikepurple Jul 3 #25
It's called actual facts DemocracyForever Jul 4 #31
That's so wrong DemocracyForever Sunday #52
Literally why so many amendments start with "congress shall make no law..." SSJVegeta Saturday #51
Congressional laws can never overturn the constitution DemocracyForever Jul 2 #18
"What's a constitution?" - Brett NameAlreadyTaken Jul 1 #4
The U.S. constitution DemocracyForever Jul 1 #7
That's not what he is saying. Ms. Toad Jul 2 #15
It's not accurate DemocracyForever Jul 2 #16
The constitution is only as clear as those designated to interpret say it is. Ms. Toad Jul 2 #19
"All persons" is clear DemocracyForever Jul 3 #22
Four of the people who we have charged with deciding what the constitution means disagree with you. Ms. Toad Jul 3 #23
I'm amazed by the tongue twisting DemocracyForever Jul 3 #24
I'm not sure who you are arguing against in this thread. Ilikepurple Jul 3 #27
Are you saying the children of foreign diplomats Ms. Toad Jul 3 #28
So don't believe your eyes? DemocracyForever Jul 4 #29
I am United States attorney Ms. Toad Jul 4 #37
NAACP Legal Defense Fund chair disagrees with you DemocracyForever Jul 5 #38
Under current law, yes. Ms. Toad Jul 5 #39
It's clearly what Kavanaugh meant DemocracyForever Jul 6 #40
No, it's not what he means. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #41
In your world 2+25 DemocracyForever Jul 7 #42
In n other words, you either haven't read the opinions Ms. Toad Jul 7 #43
Again in your world 2+25 DemocracyForever Jul 8 #44
That still does not support your contention that he doesn't understand the Constitution. Ms. Toad Jul 8 #45
The tongue twisting is boundless DemocracyForever Jul 9 #46
As I explained, there are two sources of citizenship: the constitution and statute. Ms. Toad Jul 9 #47
Kavanaugh is wrong DemocracyForever Jul 10 #48
Not what you said Ms. Toad Jul 10 #49
The tongue twisting is boundless DemocracyForever Saturday #50
Congress can pass an amendment to override................... Lovie777 Jul 1 #5
Congress can pass a constitutional amendment DemocracyForever Jul 4 #30
Aren't these meat stuffed robes supposed to be legal geniuses?? NoMoreRepugs Jul 1 #6
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TLDR Mossfern Jul 3 #26
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More the truth is stronger than fiction CNYHarris Jul 4 #34
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