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In reply to the discussion: This international criminal web is huge. Merrick Garland and "The Octopus" [View all]Wiz Imp
(10,389 posts)76. It appears there is a good chance This Will Hold is actually Russian state sponsored disinformation
https://sgcarney.substack.com/p/was-i-duped-by-russian-spies?r=4ueio&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Scott Carney is an investigative reporter and award winning author who has made it clear he is on the side of the people who question the results of the election. But when he calls out a fraudulent organization like "This will hold" because they are very clearly frauds and hurt the case of those crying "election interference", then we continue to see loads of people who "feel it in their bones" that the 2024 election was stolen refuse to accept the reality that the claims of "this will hold" are 100% bullshit.
Scott Carney continues to suppor the "Election Truth Alliance" which I believ is simply another grifting election denialist organization, but at least they are willing to go on record with their real identities and stand behind their claims.
If only the people here were as honest with themselves as Scott Carney....
You know this how? Because they say so?
/1-this-will-hold-is-back-with-a-new-article-following-from-their-series-claiming
They claimed:
Reality:
That sounds like the complete opposite of a "legit" organization.
Can anyone name one piece of real evidence they have presented that the election of "stolen"? I've not seen it yet.
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However, we all know that Russians have been heavily involved in election interference since at least 2016. The FBI is still looking for several Russian military intelligence agents who have tried to hack election systems, and, more importantly, used social media to sow discord and distrust in the American election process. Investigative journalist Benn Jordan put out a report earlier this year indicating that the system is so pervasive and sophisticated that as many as one in three interactions on social media are actually with bot accounts.
The goal of military disinformation campaigns isnt to directly sway an elections results, but rather make it impossible to trust anything at all that you read online and to make you feel helpless and apathetic to reality. I believe that This Will Hold and the Common Coalition fit the profile of an intelligence operation precisely because they have zero accountability. They promote knowingly fake election theories into the public sphere in order to sow confusion among people who have more reliable information.
This does not mean that everyone in the Common Coalition is a Russian asset, only but that the top of the coalition would be exactly that. At the very least they would be what the FSB calls a useful idiot.
At this point, their conspiracy theories are so popular that they drown out more nuanced analysis by Smart Elections and the Election Truth Allianceboth of which are groups that have transparent founders that you can vet directly.
However, we all know that Russians have been heavily involved in election interference since at least 2016. The FBI is still looking for several Russian military intelligence agents who have tried to hack election systems, and, more importantly, used social media to sow discord and distrust in the American election process. Investigative journalist Benn Jordan put out a report earlier this year indicating that the system is so pervasive and sophisticated that as many as one in three interactions on social media are actually with bot accounts.
The goal of military disinformation campaigns isnt to directly sway an elections results, but rather make it impossible to trust anything at all that you read online and to make you feel helpless and apathetic to reality. I believe that This Will Hold and the Common Coalition fit the profile of an intelligence operation precisely because they have zero accountability. They promote knowingly fake election theories into the public sphere in order to sow confusion among people who have more reliable information.
This does not mean that everyone in the Common Coalition is a Russian asset, only but that the top of the coalition would be exactly that. At the very least they would be what the FSB calls a useful idiot.
At this point, their conspiracy theories are so popular that they drown out more nuanced analysis by Smart Elections and the Election Truth Allianceboth of which are groups that have transparent founders that you can vet directly.
Scott Carney is an investigative reporter and award winning author who has made it clear he is on the side of the people who question the results of the election. But when he calls out a fraudulent organization like "This will hold" because they are very clearly frauds and hurt the case of those crying "election interference", then we continue to see loads of people who "feel it in their bones" that the 2024 election was stolen refuse to accept the reality that the claims of "this will hold" are 100% bullshit.
Scott Carney continues to suppor the "Election Truth Alliance" which I believ is simply another grifting election denialist organization, but at least they are willing to go on record with their real identities and stand behind their claims.
Now some of my viewers will not want to hear what Im reporting to day, but before you change the channel, I want to be extremely clear with where I stand on the possibility that someone did interfere with the 2024 election. I still think that it is absolutely possible. Trump and Elon Musk have both made multiple statements that they meddled in the election software. Theyve been telegraphing their disdain for honest elections for a decade. There are also statistical anomalies outlined by both SMART Elections and Election Truth Alliance (who have both appeared on this channel) that I still find convincing. But getting the facts right is important. This is a topic that is so centrally to the future of the country and the world that we have no other choice.
At this point, their conspiracy theories are so popular that they drown out more nuanced analysis by Smart Elections and the Election Truth Allianceboth of which are groups that have transparent founders that you can vet directly.
Theyre successful because what they have to say is more extreme than everyone else. Its a story as old as social media and algorithmic recommendations.
The last thing that I want to say before I go is that its sort of embarrassing to admit that I made a mistake in such a public format. I want to get things right the first time and every time before I put out a report. But unfortunately the reality is that EVERYONE makes errors from time to time. Its an unavoidable part of the job.
Theyre successful because what they have to say is more extreme than everyone else. Its a story as old as social media and algorithmic recommendations.
The last thing that I want to say before I go is that its sort of embarrassing to admit that I made a mistake in such a public format. I want to get things right the first time and every time before I put out a report. But unfortunately the reality is that EVERYONE makes errors from time to time. Its an unavoidable part of the job.
If only the people here were as honest with themselves as Scott Carney....
"About "This Will Hold". They are legit,"
You know this how? Because they say so?
/1-this-will-hold-is-back-with-a-new-article-following-from-their-series-claiming
They claimed:
Ex‑CIA whistleblower Adam Zarnowski alleges that in December 2024 the NSA secretly audited the friggin election and found Harris won by a landslide, but then buried it.
Reality:
There is no public or credible leak, no documents, no whistleblower chain of custody. NSA does cyber intelnot vote counting. No other sources back up this epic claim.
That sounds like the complete opposite of a "legit" organization.
Can anyone name one piece of real evidence they have presented that the election of "stolen"? I've not seen it yet.
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