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gulliver

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8. Nazis used "fatherland," I thought

Sun Mar 15, 2026, 11:46 AM

Mar 15

But I agree it is the same sort of jingoistic thing as "homeland." It's just one of many gifts George W. Bush gave Bin Laden and Islamism in general.

Would the citizens of the country be more united if many weren't using the word "homeland" to try to force some holier-than thou patriotism? I think so. It's similar to folks who believe themselves to be on the left using the word "unhoused" instead of "homeless." The word choices project vanity and create divisiveness. Language is important.

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STOP with the Homeland crap. We are the UNITED STATES ! [View all] 4bonhoffer Mar 15 OP

DURec leftstreet Mar 15 #1

The homeland for this country is actually England Blues Heron Mar 15 #2

Well, some of my relatives were already here. txwhitedove Mar 15 #29

Golly Dave Id Mar 15 #48

I've always thought so The Blue Flower Mar 15 #3

The first time he used it, I was like... ybbor Mar 15 #19

Exactly my reaction relayerbob Mar 15 #22

yes, GWB ingrained this jingoism with "Dept of Homeland Security". Welcome to Bari Weiss's CBS. thesquanderer Mar 16 #79

Doesn't seem very "united" luv2fly Mar 15 #4

Homeland even predated the Germans ITAL Mar 15 #5

Its from the 1660s The Revolution Mar 15 #53

And, sadly, it stuck Joinfortmill Mar 15 #56

"Die Heimat," German for The Homeland, is now the name of Germany's far-right neo-Nazi political party Ocelot II Mar 15 #6

Fatherland! usonian Mar 15 #7

Nazis used "fatherland," I thought gulliver Mar 15 #8

They used "die Heimat," the homeland, more frequently. Ocelot II Mar 15 #9

Interesting. It does seem they used both a lot. gulliver Mar 15 #12

I agree: PCIntern Mar 15 #10

Thank you I completely agree. AltairIV Mar 15 #11

100% CONCUR. But Hey---Dubya IS The Grandson Of Pro-Nazi Prescott. ColoringFool Mar 15 #13

Hear! Hear! EarthFirst Mar 15 #14

I hated that Nazi phrasing from its start IbogaProject Mar 15 #15

How about "The Fatherland" instead? Martin Eden Mar 15 #16

How about Motherland? BattleRow Mar 15 #39

Like "Mother Russia", maybe JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 15 #41

For a guy who nods off in meetings,amazing he still "woke". BattleRow Mar 15 #45

Собачий свисток Jilly_in_VA Mar 15 #65

And Trump said he wasn't going to learn that damn Spanish language! BattleRow Mar 15 #66

Too Russian. AZ8theist Mar 15 #43

England is the Motherland nt meow2u3 Mar 15 #49

Mothers would not behave like these... Martin Eden Mar 15 #59

Always sounded weird to me. Creepy even. paleotn Mar 15 #17

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Mar 15 #18

I also destest the use of ' the Heartland' to describe the rural Midwest. Even more when those living there are called Celerity Mar 15 #20

That was always White Supremacy dog whistle. Iggo Mar 15 #47

There's nothing wrong with the term as they used it. "Fatherland" would be different Callie1979 Mar 15 #21

See post 32. niyad Mar 15 #34

Still much ado about nothing. Many words weren't used 25yrs ago. Callie1979 Mar 15 #51

So fighting psychological manipulation and propaganda is "making niyad Mar 15 #61

Your words. Never considered this word anything other than what it IS. Callie1979 Mar 15 #63

German "fatherland" and Russia's "motherland"... both make me cringe...as "homeland" does. QueerDuck Mar 15 #23

Actually, the only time I don't mind the word "homeland" is in the closing lyric of Edelweiss. QueerDuck Mar 15 #24

I agree rhiannon55 Mar 15 #68

When GW McIdiot created the Department of Homeland Security I thought ... aggiesal Mar 15 #25

Homeland WAS Nazi Germany Clouds Passing Mar 15 #26

Mainland is a better term. Kablooie Mar 15 #27

That would exclude Alaska and Hawaii Martin Eden Mar 15 #62

News radio in the car. BidenRocks Mar 15 #28

Like a wise man once said: Dave Bowman Mar 15 #30

Thank you for this great post Scubamatt Mar 15 #31

That term is not part of American political terminology prior to Bush JHB Mar 15 #32

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Mar 15 #40

Thank you. It bugs the hell out of me as well. niyad Mar 15 #33

ding. this. AllaN01Bear Mar 15 #35

Absolutely nailed it! You connected it/us to its insidious nature. N/T slumcamper Mar 15 #36

I agree with your sentiment and have thought that since 9/11. llmart Mar 15 #37

K & R SunSeeker Mar 15 #38

I agree NHvet Mar 15 #42

I agree! Americanme Mar 15 #44

"Homeland Security" has been a masturbatory term for American Nazis since day one. Iggo Mar 15 #46

the word "homeland" has much too much garbage attached to it to make it a descriptor of the United States. patphil Mar 15 #50

I've felt this way since they started using it. Sickens me. Raftergirl Mar 15 #52

Yup, too 'Nazi like' for me. Joinfortmill Mar 15 #54

Next Step Is Calling It the Fatherland. MineralMan Mar 15 #55

I agree 100% spanone Mar 15 #57

If my memory serves me well The Wizard Mar 15 #58

Well said 4bonhoffer. flashman13 Mar 15 #60

Amen! Marvin Jones Mar 15 #64

You're right Renew Deal Mar 15 #67

I learned something new today! ShazzieB Mar 15 #69

Code word for their fellow B.See Mar 15 #70

I also agree Ialwaysvote Mar 15 #71

The Un-united States of America (hopefully, a soon to be resolved) damifino10 Mar 15 #72

Current criteria for primarying Dems? MorbidButterflyTat Mar 15 #73

I agree, never liked the word homeland, it Nazism MacKasey Mar 16 #74

Kick and rec.Pure propaganda. 58Sunliner Mar 16 #75

The word "national" used to work just fine! colorado_ufo Mar 16 #76

It irritates me that our representatives don't strategically weaponize language like Republicans. live love laugh Mar 16 #77

We haven't been the United States since fox goptv got their FCC license & billionaires were allowed to bribe politicians yaesu Mar 16 #78

Agreed. I've hated the term since Dubya first started using it. Orrex Mar 16 #80