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Cirsium

(3,862 posts)
62. Very good
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:00 PM
Yesterday

Thanks. In your opinion, then, Congress must have declared war before anyone could be (legitimately?) charged with treason.

Being charged with a crime and committing a crime are not necessarily the same anything. Not all crimes result in arrests and charges. In addition, a rogue prosecutor could charge a person with anything, regardless of the letter of the law or the facts.

Merriam-Webster says treason is "the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family." Clearly a person could commit treason regardless of what the Constitution says or Congress does. Therefore I think that scolding and lecturing people here for accusing Trump of treason is unnecessary and provocative.

At the same time, I don't think Trump would or should be charged with treason, and it is unlikely that treason charges will ever be brought against anyone again in the absence of an officially declared war. It is also unlikely, in my opinion, that there will ever be a declared war. Of course, war will go on despite that technicality. So I guess technically no one will be killed or injured in these not wars. That is some comfort. (sarcasm there)


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It's TREASON not sedition [View all] 4bonhoffer Wednesday OP
the 'obvious treason' - would be the picture on the wall .. ? stopdiggin Wednesday #1
Treason is narrowly defined Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #2
Really? Cirsium Wednesday #7
Did Jane Fonda get charged with treason? How about the Rosenbergs? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #12
lol Cirsium Wednesday #14
She went to Hanoi and had photo ops with various NVA officials Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #15
I know what she did Cirsium Wednesday #16
You don't know the difference between adversary and enemy, do you? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #17
Sure Cirsium Wednesday #19
Was he convicted of "aiding and abetting an enemy"? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #21
Goalposts moved again Cirsium Wednesday #22
The goalposts remain the same Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #23
I didn't say that Cirsium Wednesday #24
Oh brother Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #29
It was a serious question Cirsium Thursday #30
I answered your serious, "innocent" question several times Fiendish Thingy Thursday #32
Facts Cirsium Thursday #40
Facts are good Fiendish Thingy Thursday #42
The last 100 years? Cirsium Thursday #45
*sigh* go reread my post Fiendish Thingy Thursday #47
Exactly Cirsium Yesterday #58
This is my opinion: Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #61
Very good Cirsium Yesterday #62
When it comes to criminal prosecution, the US Code overrules Merriam-Webster Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #63
Why the insults? Cirsium Yesterday #64
I've read all your posts in this thread, and I didn't know any of them were "tongue in cheek" until I came to this one. ShazzieB Thursday #48
When Jane Fonda was president? Cirsium Thursday #49
Oh, I forgot about that one. ShazzieB Yesterday #51
Thanks Cirsium Yesterday #57
You're welcome. ShazzieB Yesterday #65
Waging war against the US -- Does that have to be wnylib Yesterday #54
Technically, the ringleaders of J6 were convicted of seditous conspiracy Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #56
Am I doing it right now? Cirsium Yesterday #67
If you ALREADY KNEW all of this, then why play dumb? Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #68
You didn't understand, apparently Cirsium Yesterday #69
You are the one who doesn't understand Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #70
OK Cirsium 21 hrs ago #71
That doesn't change the legal definition of treason EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #18
What?? Cirsium Wednesday #20
No EdmondDantes_ Thursday #44
The "definition" Cirsium Thursday #50
So it's lying when others change definitions, but not when you do? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #53
OK Cirsium Yesterday #59
Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution defines Treason for all purposes under U.S. law . . . markpkessinger 19 hrs ago #72
Execute Trump for sharing state secrets then PATRICK Thursday #31
I would be in favor of rendering him to The Hague once his term is over Fiendish Thingy Thursday #35
Now we're talking Cirsium Yesterday #60
It's not what can see and call out... lame54 Wednesday #3
But only for awhile. calimary Wednesday #25
"Low treason" mr715 Wednesday #4
Everything he does benefits Vlad in a big way! debsy Wednesday #5
Of course the "experts" on what is treason wlll be out in force. Maybe add quotes around it "treason" erronis Wednesday #6
Confederacy of conspirators aiding and abetting traitorous destabilization. BattleRow Wednesday #8
and of course if you're just doing a 'rant' .... stopdiggin Wednesday #9
Impeachment is always an option Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #13
That remedy PATRICK Thursday #34
I wasn't suggesting impeachment was likely, only possible. Fiendish Thingy Thursday #36
True in one thing at present PATRICK Thursday #39
They do NOT have "absolute" power Fiendish Thingy Thursday #41
They don't until they do PATRICK Yesterday #52
Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami in November Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #55
I like the way you think. ShazzieB Yesterday #66
That Bush ancestry PATRICK Thursday #33
Excellent. Food for thought. erronis Thursday #38
... kinda reminds me of that scene in the movie Nuremberg Six117 Wednesday #10
The Democratic party is timid. Plays nice too often. Democrats who can hid hard are marginalize by the leadership. Denvermosaic Wednesday #11
That's what we have to fix. calimary Wednesday #28
Trump let Israel influence his decision leftstreet Wednesday #26
100% a traitor to this country vapor2 Wednesday #27
Number One guys deposed, executed PATRICK Thursday #37
Trump and Putin are on the same side. Kid Berwyn Thursday #43
What did Krasnov do w/ all that purloined classified material he moved to Merde-A-Loco??? ultralite001 Thursday #46
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