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23. this expectation of some is a degeneration of norms
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:00 PM
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...but more than that, it's a part of the frustration watching the republicans and Trump break every rule and law they want that's in their way, seemingly with ultimate impunity from accountability and judgment.

It's part of why dictatorships often have appeal to populaces who've been subjected to government failure to produce for the people.

When trust in the systems in place that are supposed to ensure and defend those things collapses, that appeal of 'extra-judicial' or similar disdain for laws and norms blocking interference or partisan political use of the DOJ can ignite in that vacuum of lawlessness in favor of a sort of righteous vigilantism which throws it all in a chaotic muddle of competing interests, instead of strict adherence to the law.

That's what people who are invested in the law are protecting when they, for instance, refuse to publicly reveal dirt of political opponents; especially in the midst of a political election in which one of the candidates is a subject of investigation.

There's also an unhealthy expectation that the Garland DOJ should have been more concerned with winning the election for Democrats, instead of following the evidence and defending it against appeals and challenges in the grand jury process which all federal prosecutions first rely on to bring forth charges on the jury's recommendation.

Absolute power corrupts. absolutely.

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Oh BeyondGeography Yesterday #1
DURec leftstreet Yesterday #2
Great idea! And while they're at it, please subpoena whomever at SDNY requested NM to stop ranch investigation in 2019 SheltieLover Yesterday #3
Years of silence Tetrachloride Yesterday #4
Merrick Garland also has standing Mblaze Yesterday #5
Merrick Garland has no spine so asking him to stand tall is a little far fetched JT45242 6 hrs ago #62
That would be the FIRST time..... MyOwnPeace 6 hrs ago #63
Lol. msfiddlestix Yesterday #6
Agree. Spineless weasels like Garland never stand up for anything. BannonsLiver Yesterday #19
he's trying to appear even-handed here bigtree Yesterday #27
Garland Milquetoast. SergeStorms 8 hrs ago #59
Bill Barr needs to be deposed. poli-junkie Yesterday #7
Yes, Barr and Garland both need to testify FakeNoose Yesterday #13
This!!!!! 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 SheltieLover Yesterday #52
Bill Barr's father radical noodle 8 hrs ago #58
I agree. As Attorney General, each of these men had inside knowledge as to the content of the Epstein files. patphil 7 hrs ago #61
TY! Bill Barr inherited Epstein or were they already brothers? Kid Berwyn 6 hrs ago #65
Gooooood! Prairie Gates Yesterday #8
🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 Whyisthisstillclose Yesterday #9
Merrick Garland would take the 5th... Escape Yesterday #10
Merrick Garland has never and would never take the 5th. SunSeeker Yesterday #12
Thank you. Well said Raven123 Yesterday #26
Epstein-related files could not be legally released during Garland's term because Maxwell's case was still under appeal bigtree Yesterday #11
Here comes the Garland Society. BannonsLiver Yesterday #14
There is certainly grounds for criticizing Garland for his slow prosecution of Trump, but not for this. SunSeeker Yesterday #22
I've heard all those excuses and rationalizations before. BannonsLiver Yesterday #24
Those are not "rationalizations" about the handling of the Epstein files, they're facts. SunSeeker Yesterday #39
When Bondi threw Garland's name at Ted Lieu he didn't disagree with her premise that Garland was delinquent on Epstein BeyondGeography Yesterday #41
Ted Lieu was not implying Garland should have disclosed the Epstein files. SunSeeker Yesterday #44
Exactly. Thank you bigtree. He didn't want to comment because it could endanger the conviction, which was on appeal. SunSeeker Yesterday #16
this expectation of some is a degeneration of norms bigtree Yesterday #23
Sounds sorta like can't fight the fire until the house KPN Yesterday #21
I may have a different interpretation of 'still interviewing witnesses' than you bigtree Yesterday #25
There's some management tools called priorities, assignment of resources, KPN Yesterday #28
none of which have been shown by anyone to have been neglected or mismanaged bigtree Yesterday #31
You have your opinion. I have mine. This was a big deal as KPN Yesterday #38
I literally said none was shown bigtree Yesterday #42
You can't show something that is missing -- like higher priority, greater emphasis, etc. I don't isolate everything to KPN Yesterday #45
we're only talking about points and processes of law. What does 'proof' have to do with all that, you say? bigtree Yesterday #48
Instead of escalating and projecting -- as in "obfuscating", KPN 19 hrs ago #54
the projection here is against Garland bigtree 17 hrs ago #55
Mmmhmmm. KPN 17 hrs ago #56
UH OH, Escape Yesterday #15
I like to call it the Garland Society. BannonsLiver Yesterday #18
Yes, and isn't it amazing... Escape Yesterday #46
Interesting question. BannonsLiver Yesterday #49
One million files and nothing was done The Blue Flower Yesterday #17
Incompetence or worse? KPN Yesterday #29
Blaming Biden's DOJ is everywhere on right wing social media. progressoid Yesterday #20
Lol. In some ways, I can't disagree. KPN Yesterday #30
We need to have a GOOD answer to this or it will cost us in the election. Currently our answer is that Scrivener7 Yesterday #35
THIS. Absolutely. Shed the thin skin and blinders. KPN Yesterday #47
Instead of wasting time on Garland... appmanga Yesterday #32
This. Good idea. Scrivener7 Yesterday #34
THIS SunSeeker Yesterday #40
Garland won't tell us anything. Bring on Jack Smith to talk about his investigations. Scrivener7 Yesterday #33
The deep of corruption in the current and former DOJ is very enlightening. Pretty obvious walkingman Yesterday #36
Brilliant idea xuplate Yesterday #37
Well there's at least one thing MAGAts and Dems appear to agree on MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #43
It's essentially spring in my area already. BannonsLiver Yesterday #50
So should Barr!!! SheltieLover Yesterday #51
AGREE ! republianmushroom 22 hrs ago #53
Yup. And also why he slow walked the prosecution of our nation's top criminal. Clouds Passing 9 hrs ago #57
he is one of the reasons trump was not stopped when we had the same power trump now has samsingh 7 hrs ago #60
We know why.... Quanto Magnus 6 hrs ago #64
Garland was a right-winger, even if he didn't register as a Republican Bluetus 5 hrs ago #67
Add Bill Barr to that list. Grins 6 hrs ago #66
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