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47. He froze, choked like an athlete.

Wed Feb 25, 2026, 12:16 AM

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He was never a natural debater, and he's a stutterer. Then add chronic hoarseness that set in over the year or so before the debate. Most importantly, he ran his presidency like an old-school president, on the telephone, in the office, not interested in continuous campaigning. So this was something he hadn't done in years. And even a reasonably sharp 80 year old will look, well, 80. Contrast that with Trump, who is loud and self-assured, and I think that's enough to set the ball on the tee.

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We can't have a woman for President. Didn't you know that? CTyankee Feb 24 #1

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That awful moment in the debate when he looked glazed and didn't speak. CTyankee Feb 24 #30

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So what was your interpretation of what happened to Biden during the debate? CTyankee Feb 24 #32

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I hope for the best for this wonderful man. CTyankee Feb 24 #39

He froze, choked like an athlete. carpetbagger Wednesday #47

Of course she was calguy Feb 24 #27

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Yes they can. calguy Feb 24 #40

BS. Tell that to President Guliani! Renew Deal Feb 24 #19

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Wait until Kelly bluestarone Feb 24 #6

I like Sen. Kelly 👍 poli-junkie Feb 24 #7

I think Kelly would give us the best chance to win. padfun Feb 24 #8

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I don't think region really matters anymore. Happy Hoosier Feb 24 #20

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I suspect he'd be on everyone's shortlist, if he doesn't run and win the nomination himself. tritsofme Wednesday #62

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That's what they all say....until they're in! tritsofme Wednesday #67

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I doubt Kamala will run. Melon Feb 24 #35

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Neither will win. DenaliDemocrat Feb 24 #38

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I live out west - have my whole life DenaliDemocrat Feb 24 #42

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Okay DenaliDemocrat Wednesday #44

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Annnnnd DenaliDemocrat Wednesday #57

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