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W_HAMILTON

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148. What is being done now is something that can be done.

Thu Feb 5, 2026, 05:58 PM

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And some are criticizing it for not being enough.

I agree.

But what those same people want instead, they will not be getting a long as Republicans are in power.

And that is not a failure of Democratic leadership that they don't have the power to do things that the voters gave Republicans -- not Democrats -- the power to do.

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Chuck Schumer: Democrats want commonsense reform for ICE: [View all] demmiblue Wednesday OP

Drive more twenty somethings away from the party chuckles JT45242 Wednesday #1

Why is he still in Leadership? Why is it so hard to replace bad leadership? Ars Longa Wednesday #105

Yes common sense reforms for the slave patrol gestapo racist militia LuvLoogie Wednesday #2

Yeah, make them less Nazish? Swede Wednesday #3

Maybe we could dress them in pink tutus, yellow dahlia Wednesday #76

"abide by the same rules as local police." Johnny2X2X Wednesday #4

Are you sure about that? MichMan Wednesday #49

No, Chuck. We want ICE & ALL OF DHS ABOLISHED! SheltieLover Wednesday #5

Exactly cally Wednesday #28

And DHS, Dubya's post-911 nightmare creation. SheltieLover Wednesday #56

They are bdamomma Wednesday #37

Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Wednesday #77

AGREE ! republianmushroom Wednesday #48

Post removed Post removed Wednesday #6

This Democrat want's ICE fucking abolished. Maybe Chuck should push for something that Autumn Wednesday #7

It's a good start SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #8

WTF Scrivener7 Wednesday #11

This 😎 SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #18

Ivory Tower thinking is what got us into this mess. littlemissmartypants Wednesday #40

My objection to the quote came from the fact that it is usually used to say, "Accept less." In most Scrivener7 Wednesday #54

Trying to play nice is Chuck's default mode. And you are correct - yellow dahlia Wednesday #82

"Playing nice" mr715 Wednesday #92

No charisma. And indeed compromised. yellow dahlia Wednesday #99

oh how true. choie Wednesday #131

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #61

Yeah, we saw how well defund the police worked for our side. Abolish ICE is another stinker slogan. beaglelover Wednesday #101

I completely disagree. mr715 Wednesday #117

Yeah but also don't let the good be the enemy of the better. Iggo Wednesday #126

Very true SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #127

How many WTF's can we use in a day? yellow dahlia Wednesday #80

So, if they contain themselves to teargas and beatings LearnedHand Wednesday #73

Nice strawman argument SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #78

Cool, so heads cracked open better than death. Win win! durablend Wednesday #88

Another great straw man SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #89

Exactly. yellow dahlia Wednesday #83

You know what else helps Republicans? Bettie Wednesday #119

Every journey begins SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #120

All too often it feels like that single step Bettie Wednesday #122

Then maybe we should work SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #123

This is the perfect response. mr715 Wednesday #132

Hey Chuckles BluenFLA Wednesday #9

That's the wrong approach, gab13by13 Wednesday #13

I'm good with border patrol for the most part. Fuck ICE and fuck reforming that bullshit Gestapo. Autumn Wednesday #15

Krasnov, well Miller, gab13by13 Wednesday #19

Border patrol existed long before Trumps ICE. Autumn Wednesday #20

But he will negotiate it with a stern tone. yellow dahlia Wednesday #84

Ice really needs to go, though. We don't have to state that we're doing it, but we can take a Scrivener7 Wednesday #17

Yes exactly, gab13by13 Wednesday #22

THIS! yellow dahlia Wednesday #86

Fuck the MSM and ICE orangecrush Wednesday #52

Vichy bdamomma Wednesday #38

Schumer BeClowns himself everyday. 617Blue Wednesday #10

You need to be more specific Chuck, gab13by13 Wednesday #12

The only effective means to reform ICE is to replace its management Martin Eden Wednesday #14

not going to happen gab13by13 Wednesday #24

There really doesn't exist any leverage to defund ICE. LudwigPastorius Wednesday #90

Missing the target. Kid Berwyn Wednesday #16

Thomas Paine wrote a pamphlet called "Common Sense". Ping Tung Wednesday #21

This. I think we need to reprint Common Sense and give it away as a free gift for the 250th. ! n/t Cheezoholic Wednesday #33

THIS! yellow dahlia Wednesday #87

THIS orangecrush Wednesday #60

Thomas Paine is one of my favorite purveyor of words. yellow dahlia Wednesday #103

"Sure, Senator, you can order milk and toast, but are you sure nothing else interests you?" JHB Wednesday #23

To the "Abolish ICE" folks, here's the problem EarlG Wednesday #25

+1 But Schumer shouldn't be the one making this case leftstreet Wednesday #26

I don't disagree with that EarlG Wednesday #27

Thank you EarlG bdamomma Wednesday #43

"Repeal and replace ICE" - excellent. yellow dahlia Wednesday #106

Bingo, gab13by13 Wednesday #34

I hadn't read your comment yet, gab... yellow dahlia Wednesday #107

I want them to abolish their Ivory Tower approach. littlemissmartypants Wednesday #44

That could be a picture Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #47

Exactly--and well said. Look how well "defund the police" went from a political standpoint. Ol Janx Spirit Wednesday #50

Sorry, don't need this. orangecrush Wednesday #57

Yes. yellow dahlia Wednesday #108

I guess I'm not seeing the whole puncture orangecrush Wednesday #63

I'm with you on that EarlG Wednesday #110

Incremental change orangecrush Wednesday #115

Thanks for the cogent thoughts for thought. yellow dahlia Wednesday #104

"They'll behave if we treat them nice" ... Neville Chamberlain. usonian Wednesday #29

Just like Barney Fife ....no masks, no bullets! surfered Wednesday #30

Could he possibly sound any more milquetoast? How about "ICE as out of control and needs shutdown or massive overhaul." kysrsoze Wednesday #31

Call it what it is - yes. yellow dahlia Wednesday #109

Talk about wishy washy lol n/t Cheezoholic Wednesday #32

At least the powder is still dry. flvegan Wednesday #35

Like talcum powder orangecrush Wednesday #55

Just as important, get rid of all the military crap they wear. patphil Wednesday #36

Gather the bdamomma Wednesday #45

Good start on a list. yellow dahlia Wednesday #111

Memo to Schumer: AverageOldGuy Wednesday #39

You need to write it more sternly. yellow dahlia Wednesday #112

DHS & ICE were created solely to sweep W's massive f*** up known as 9/11 under the rug. Crowman2009 Wednesday #41

Someone in DHS Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #42

Exactly. mr715 Wednesday #46

+1 orangecrush Wednesday #65

I'm with you, J in VA. yellow dahlia Wednesday #113

You can't "fix" the gestapo, Chuck orangecrush Wednesday #51

You fix it by burning it down and salting the earth. mr715 Wednesday #72

Would abolishing ICE mean an end to all deportations? MichMan Wednesday #53

No. We have had deportations since our country began. ICE is 20 years old. Scrivener7 Wednesday #58

Wasn't sure how it was done before ICE MichMan Wednesday #64

Historically a lot of agencies have been invested with these powers mr715 Wednesday #71

I do, it was called the INS. Crowman2009 Wednesday #96

Democrats need common sense leadership mr715 Wednesday #59

I think we can SAY our position is reform, but I hope our leaders know we want that reform to Scrivener7 Wednesday #62

Someone with a pot conviction 30 years ago that is now working for the federal government should be fired? MichMan Wednesday #67

As always, your response says a lot. Scrivener7 Wednesday #68

You said " the firing of anyone with a criminal record" MichMan Wednesday #69

Have a lovely day, dear. Scrivener7 Wednesday #79

Yeah, reforms can cut to the bone. mr715 Wednesday #70

"need to be at the center of a conversation while saying absolutely nothing" yellow dahlia Wednesday #121

Effective OC375 Wednesday #66

No Chuck, we want you to pour salt on it. We WANT it destroyed. Volaris Wednesday #74

Chuck Schumer is not the problem MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #75

I don't hate Schumer. Like the board on my deck that needs to be replaced because it no longer fits Autumn Wednesday #85

This is exactly, exactly the way to approach this. mr715 Wednesday #91

"By whom?" Bernie Sanders responded to that same question when it was asked to him. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #93

Senator Murphy seems to want the gig. mr715 Wednesday #94

Can you point me to where he has called on Schumer to step down and/or announced he was challenging him a leader? W_HAMILTON Wednesday #135

Blame the voters, a great way to being an eternal minority. mr715 19 hrs ago #143

It's called educating the voters and the reason for doing so is that they don't make the same mistake again. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #145

You keep asking this. I'd concur that Murphy would be my choice, but there are a number who would do well. Scrivener7 Wednesday #97

Because I, like Sanders and most Democratic Senators, realize that changing leadership... W_HAMILTON Wednesday #134

But, from your posts, you don't seem to think Scrivener7 Yesterday #136

Oh come now... mr715 20 hrs ago #141

Because there isn't much that can be done. W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #144

So is there anything you think is worthwhile to do now? Or will you continue to try and convince us that Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #147

What is being done now is something that can be done. W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #148

What are you referring to? The partial shutdown? Haven't you argued that a shutdown is futile? Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #150

"Abolish Schumer" anger-fests seem very addicting. Need that fix! betsuni Wednesday #95

Maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene could replace Chuck! MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #114

Who here is supporting Greene? mr715 Wednesday #116

Can you link to any posts here that are supporting her? It seems like another of those Scrivener7 Wednesday #130

Don't wait for a link, you will be waiting forever. No one here supports MTG Autumn 21 hrs ago #138

Is this your way of saying she should? Because I'm sure not one soul here is looking for that. Autumn 21 hrs ago #137

I shall take your silence as a confession mr715 20 hrs ago #139

He is right on this. Just like those who thought defund the police was a winning issue, it isn't. lostincalifornia Wednesday #81

The reality is that there will have to be some arm of the federal government that enforces immigration law. Jedi Guy Wednesday #98

Here's the thing, though mr715 Wednesday #118

Chuck Schumer is not the leader required in this time. yellow dahlia Wednesday #100

Jeezus, Chuck, wake up. It's an attempted coup Joinfortmill Wednesday #102

Wrong answer, Chuck. travelingthrulife Wednesday #124

I try so hard to support all Democrats MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #125

He did not ask me. LoisB Wednesday #128

Enough "common sense." Abolish DHS. DJ Synikus Makisimus Wednesday #129

IF we win both or even just one chamber EnergizedLib Wednesday #133

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You're really stupid aren't you? KS Toronado 20 hrs ago #142

How can we make sound policy when living in fear of GOP focus group results? Kid Berwyn 17 hrs ago #146

For Some God Knows What Reason, Too Many Democratic Leaders Like To..... ColoringFool 13 hrs ago #149