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mr715

(3,218 posts)
91. This is exactly, exactly the way to approach this.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 02:35 PM
Yesterday

Our relationships with politicians are policy oriented and transactional. The virtue of being in a leadership position does not innocculate one from criticism and, in fact, should require a higher moral standard.

Sen. Schumer has been in the Senate for a long time, and is an excellent fundraiser. He is responsible for a number of members getting elected to the Senate, but those days are behind him.

The world changed, and Schumer did not. Worse, he seems to be somewhat blind to the fact that he is out of step with his party.

He was the junior partner with Speaker Emerita Pelosi - it was quite apparent during any of their joint conferences. He is, at least to my tastes, too passive and too willing to negotiate on issues of moral clarity.

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Drive more twenty somethings away from the party chuckles JT45242 Yesterday #1
Why is he still in Leadership? Why is it so hard to replace bad leadership? Ars Longa 21 hrs ago #105
Yes common sense reforms for the slave patrol gestapo racist militia LuvLoogie Yesterday #2
Yeah, make them less Nazish? Swede Yesterday #3
Maybe we could dress them in pink tutus, yellow dahlia Yesterday #76
"abide by the same rules as local police." Johnny2X2X Yesterday #4
Are you sure about that? MichMan Yesterday #49
No, Chuck. We want ICE & ALL OF DHS ABOLISHED! SheltieLover Yesterday #5
Exactly cally Yesterday #28
And DHS, Dubya's post-911 nightmare creation. SheltieLover Yesterday #56
They are bdamomma Yesterday #37
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Yesterday #77
AGREE ! republianmushroom Yesterday #48
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #6
This Democrat want's ICE fucking abolished. Maybe Chuck should push for something that Autumn Yesterday #7
It's a good start SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #8
WTF Scrivener7 Yesterday #11
This 😎 SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #18
Ivory Tower thinking is what got us into this mess. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #40
My objection to the quote came from the fact that it is usually used to say, "Accept less." In most Scrivener7 Yesterday #54
Trying to play nice is Chuck's default mode. And you are correct - yellow dahlia Yesterday #82
"Playing nice" mr715 Yesterday #92
No charisma. And indeed compromised. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #99
oh how true. choie 16 hrs ago #131
Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #61
Yeah, we saw how well defund the police worked for our side. Abolish ICE is another stinker slogan. beaglelover 21 hrs ago #101
I completely disagree. mr715 19 hrs ago #117
Yeah but also don't let the good be the enemy of the better. Iggo 18 hrs ago #126
Very true SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #127
How many WTF's can we use in a day? yellow dahlia Yesterday #80
So, if they contain themselves to teargas and beatings LearnedHand Yesterday #73
Nice strawman argument SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #78
Cool, so heads cracked open better than death. Win win! durablend Yesterday #88
Another great straw man SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #89
Exactly. yellow dahlia Yesterday #83
You know what else helps Republicans? Bettie 19 hrs ago #119
Every journey begins SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #120
All too often it feels like that single step Bettie 18 hrs ago #122
Then maybe we should work SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #123
This is the perfect response. mr715 16 hrs ago #132
Hey Chuckles BluenFLA Yesterday #9
That's the wrong approach, gab13by13 Yesterday #13
I'm good with border patrol for the most part. Fuck ICE and fuck reforming that bullshit Gestapo. Autumn Yesterday #15
Krasnov, well Miller, gab13by13 Yesterday #19
Border patrol existed long before Trumps ICE. Autumn Yesterday #20
But he will negotiate it with a stern tone. yellow dahlia Yesterday #84
Ice really needs to go, though. We don't have to state that we're doing it, but we can take a Scrivener7 Yesterday #17
Yes exactly, gab13by13 Yesterday #22
THIS! yellow dahlia Yesterday #86
Fuck the MSM and ICE orangecrush Yesterday #52
Vichy bdamomma Yesterday #38
Schumer BeClowns himself everyday. 617Blue Yesterday #10
You need to be more specific Chuck, gab13by13 Yesterday #12
The only effective means to reform ICE is to replace its management Martin Eden Yesterday #14
not going to happen gab13by13 Yesterday #24
There really doesn't exist any leverage to defund ICE. LudwigPastorius Yesterday #90
Missing the target. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #16
Thomas Paine wrote a pamphlet called "Common Sense". Ping Tung Yesterday #21
This. I think we need to reprint Common Sense and give it away as a free gift for the 250th. ! n/t Cheezoholic Yesterday #33
THIS! yellow dahlia Yesterday #87
THIS orangecrush Yesterday #60
Thomas Paine is one of my favorite purveyor of words. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #103
"Sure, Senator, you can order milk and toast, but are you sure nothing else interests you?" JHB Yesterday #23
To the "Abolish ICE" folks, here's the problem EarlG Yesterday #25
+1 But Schumer shouldn't be the one making this case leftstreet Yesterday #26
I don't disagree with that EarlG Yesterday #27
Thank you EarlG bdamomma Yesterday #43
"Repeal and replace ICE" - excellent. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #106
Bingo, gab13by13 Yesterday #34
I hadn't read your comment yet, gab... yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #107
I want them to abolish their Ivory Tower approach. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #44
That could be a picture Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #47
Exactly--and well said. Look how well "defund the police" went from a political standpoint. Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #50
Sorry, don't need this. orangecrush Yesterday #57
Yes. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #108
I guess I'm not seeing the whole puncture orangecrush Yesterday #63
I'm with you on that EarlG 21 hrs ago #110
Incremental change orangecrush 20 hrs ago #115
Thanks for the cogent thoughts for thought. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #104
"They'll behave if we treat them nice" ... Neville Chamberlain. usonian Yesterday #29
Just like Barney Fife ....no masks, no bullets! surfered Yesterday #30
Could he possibly sound any more milquetoast? How about "ICE as out of control and needs shutdown or massive overhaul." kysrsoze Yesterday #31
Call it what it is - yes. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #109
Talk about wishy washy lol n/t Cheezoholic Yesterday #32
At least the powder is still dry. flvegan Yesterday #35
Like talcum powder orangecrush Yesterday #55
Just as important, get rid of all the military crap they wear. patphil Yesterday #36
Gather the bdamomma Yesterday #45
Good start on a list. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #111
Memo to Schumer: AverageOldGuy Yesterday #39
You need to write it more sternly. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #112
DHS & ICE were created solely to sweep W's massive f*** up known as 9/11 under the rug. Crowman2009 Yesterday #41
Someone in DHS Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #42
Exactly. mr715 Yesterday #46
+1 orangecrush Yesterday #65
I'm with you, J in VA. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #113
You can't "fix" the gestapo, Chuck orangecrush Yesterday #51
You fix it by burning it down and salting the earth. mr715 Yesterday #72
Would abolishing ICE mean an end to all deportations? MichMan Yesterday #53
No. We have had deportations since our country began. ICE is 20 years old. Scrivener7 Yesterday #58
Wasn't sure how it was done before ICE MichMan Yesterday #64
Historically a lot of agencies have been invested with these powers mr715 Yesterday #71
I do, it was called the INS. Crowman2009 23 hrs ago #96
Democrats need common sense leadership mr715 Yesterday #59
I think we can SAY our position is reform, but I hope our leaders know we want that reform to Scrivener7 Yesterday #62
Someone with a pot conviction 30 years ago that is now working for the federal government should be fired? MichMan Yesterday #67
As always, your response says a lot. Scrivener7 Yesterday #68
You said " the firing of anyone with a criminal record" MichMan Yesterday #69
Have a lovely day, dear. Scrivener7 Yesterday #79
Yeah, reforms can cut to the bone. mr715 Yesterday #70
"need to be at the center of a conversation while saying absolutely nothing" yellow dahlia 18 hrs ago #121
Effective OC375 Yesterday #66
No Chuck, we want you to pour salt on it. We WANT it destroyed. Volaris Yesterday #74
Chuck Schumer is not the problem MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #75
I don't hate Schumer. Like the board on my deck that needs to be replaced because it no longer fits Autumn Yesterday #85
This is exactly, exactly the way to approach this. mr715 Yesterday #91
"By whom?" Bernie Sanders responded to that same question when it was asked to him. W_HAMILTON 23 hrs ago #93
Senator Murphy seems to want the gig. mr715 23 hrs ago #94
Can you point me to where he has called on Schumer to step down and/or announced he was challenging him a leader? W_HAMILTON 15 hrs ago #135
Blame the voters, a great way to being an eternal minority. mr715 2 hrs ago #143
It's called educating the voters and the reason for doing so is that they don't make the same mistake again. W_HAMILTON 42 min ago #145
You keep asking this. I'd concur that Murphy would be my choice, but there are a number who would do well. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #97
Because I, like Sanders and most Democratic Senators, realize that changing leadership... W_HAMILTON 15 hrs ago #134
But, from your posts, you don't seem to think Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #136
Oh come now... mr715 3 hrs ago #141
Because there isn't much that can be done. W_HAMILTON 48 min ago #144
"Abolish Schumer" anger-fests seem very addicting. Need that fix! betsuni 23 hrs ago #95
Maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene could replace Chuck! MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #114
Who here is supporting Greene? mr715 19 hrs ago #116
Can you link to any posts here that are supporting her? It seems like another of those Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #130
Don't wait for a link, you will be waiting forever. No one here supports MTG Autumn 4 hrs ago #138
Is this your way of saying she should? Because I'm sure not one soul here is looking for that. Autumn 4 hrs ago #137
I shall take your silence as a confession mr715 3 hrs ago #139
He is right on this. Just like those who thought defund the police was a winning issue, it isn't. lostincalifornia Yesterday #81
The reality is that there will have to be some arm of the federal government that enforces immigration law. Jedi Guy 21 hrs ago #98
Here's the thing, though mr715 19 hrs ago #118
Chuck Schumer is not the leader required in this time. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #100
Jeezus, Chuck, wake up. It's an attempted coup Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #102
Wrong answer, Chuck. travelingthrulife 18 hrs ago #124
I try so hard to support all Democrats MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #125
He did not ask me. LoisB 18 hrs ago #128
Enough "common sense." Abolish DHS. DJ Synikus Makisimus 16 hrs ago #129
IF we win both or even just one chamber EnergizedLib 15 hrs ago #133
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You're really stupid aren't you? KS Toronado 3 hrs ago #142
How can we make sound policy when living in fear of GOP focus group results? Kid Berwyn 36 min ago #146
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