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In reply to the discussion: Chuck Schumer: Democrats want commonsense reform for ICE: [View all]Scrivener7
(58,835 posts)54. My objection to the quote came from the fact that it is usually used to say, "Accept less." In most
political situations, "Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good" is sensible. But Chuck has asked for the bare minimum here, and the situation is dire so, no, we should not be accepting less.
We should be demanding much more.
For example, there is nothing there about excluding ICE agents with criminal histories, histories of domestic abuse, or agents who can't read at an 8th grade level (which, according to Pro Publica, is most of them.)
AND we have the sentiment of the electorate behind us to do so.
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Why is he still in Leadership? Why is it so hard to replace bad leadership?
Ars Longa
18 hrs ago
#105
This Democrat want's ICE fucking abolished. Maybe Chuck should push for something that
Autumn
Yesterday
#7
My objection to the quote came from the fact that it is usually used to say, "Accept less." In most
Scrivener7
23 hrs ago
#54
Yeah, we saw how well defund the police worked for our side. Abolish ICE is another stinker slogan.
beaglelover
18 hrs ago
#101
I'm good with border patrol for the most part. Fuck ICE and fuck reforming that bullshit Gestapo.
Autumn
Yesterday
#15
Ice really needs to go, though. We don't have to state that we're doing it, but we can take a
Scrivener7
Yesterday
#17
This. I think we need to reprint Common Sense and give it away as a free gift for the 250th. ! n/t
Cheezoholic
Yesterday
#33
"Sure, Senator, you can order milk and toast, but are you sure nothing else interests you?"
JHB
Yesterday
#23
Exactly--and well said. Look how well "defund the police" went from a political standpoint.
Ol Janx Spirit
23 hrs ago
#50
Could he possibly sound any more milquetoast? How about "ICE as out of control and needs shutdown or massive overhaul."
kysrsoze
Yesterday
#31
DHS & ICE were created solely to sweep W's massive f*** up known as 9/11 under the rug.
Crowman2009
23 hrs ago
#41
No. We have had deportations since our country began. ICE is 20 years old.
Scrivener7
23 hrs ago
#58
I think we can SAY our position is reform, but I hope our leaders know we want that reform to
Scrivener7
22 hrs ago
#62
Someone with a pot conviction 30 years ago that is now working for the federal government should be fired?
MichMan
22 hrs ago
#67
"need to be at the center of a conversation while saying absolutely nothing"
yellow dahlia
15 hrs ago
#121
I don't hate Schumer. Like the board on my deck that needs to be replaced because it no longer fits
Autumn
21 hrs ago
#85
"By whom?" Bernie Sanders responded to that same question when it was asked to him.
W_HAMILTON
20 hrs ago
#93
Can you point me to where he has called on Schumer to step down and/or announced he was challenging him a leader?
W_HAMILTON
11 hrs ago
#135
You keep asking this. I'd concur that Murphy would be my choice, but there are a number who would do well.
Scrivener7
19 hrs ago
#97
Because I, like Sanders and most Democratic Senators, realize that changing leadership...
W_HAMILTON
11 hrs ago
#134
Can you link to any posts here that are supporting her? It seems like another of those
Scrivener7
13 hrs ago
#130
Is this your way of saying she should? Because I'm sure not one soul here is looking for that.
Autumn
1 hr ago
#137
He is right on this. Just like those who thought defund the police was a winning issue, it isn't.
lostincalifornia
21 hrs ago
#81