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gulliver

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81. We've been doing it a lot less

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:28 PM

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Even in the 2024 election, Harris/Walz ran on unity and focused on core issues, not "victim/oppressor" hierarchies and so forth. The hangover from that stuff hurt them though.

I think you're right that Republicans are now doing a lot more identity politics, particularly their "fringe." But I think we could get a lot of their moderates, especially those who switched from Obama to Trump, if we lower the mic volume of the fringe of both sides.

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Mark Kelly for President in 2028. [View all] Kingofalldems Nov 24 OP

I agree he's a winner. Presidential candidate? I have to think about it. OLDMDDEM Nov 24 #1

I would seriously consider him. nt allegorical oracle Nov 24 #2

He has no baggage that I know of Kingofalldems Nov 24 #5

So would he DFW Monday #42

She's not even running.. jfz9580m Nov 24 #3

She cannot be POTUS, she is not eligible. Celerity Nov 24 #9

That, and she's a woman and we can't have THAT! CTyankee Nov 24 #18

Me too CTyankee Diamond_Dog Nov 25 #28

Oh well jfz9580m Nov 25 #21

Kahn was the unsung hero of the Biden administration Fiendish Thingy Nov 24 #12

She really was jfz9580m Nov 25 #22

This is a thread about Kelly. Who is Khan? What are you talking about. Srkdqltr Monday #56

This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Monday #59

Oh well ;-/.nt jfz9580m Monday #60

He has accomplished so much pfitz59 Nov 24 #4

Mark is very busy with his re-election campaign in November, 2028 DFW Monday #43

I would see him as a kind-of Truman/Eisenhower--"Let's get Ars Longa Monday #64

They don't DFW Monday #69

And then we'd have Gabby Giffords for First Lady! Win win! Diamond_Dog Nov 24 #6

I think they must be REALLY scared of him to have singled him out this way! KLK1972 Nov 24 #7

Yeah, and Kegsbreath and Pedonald are too fucking stupid to realize the shit storm they created. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 25 #25

I quite agree there DFW Monday #44

good point Skittles Monday #54

lol good lord WhiskeyGrinder Nov 24 #8

I like him. Ritabert Nov 24 #10

I like him but he is the type that doesn't like to "go low" JI7 Nov 24 #11

Accurate perception DFW Monday #45

he's also way too moderate to win the primary IMO LymphocyteLover Monday #58

Not my first choice. Fiendish Thingy Nov 24 #13

Don't be so sure DFW Monday #46

He may not admit to you that he is even thinking of running Fiendish Thingy Monday #63

So far DFW Monday #67

No. Not yet. Let's win the midterms first, shall we? ms liberty Nov 24 #14

I promise you, that is ALL that is on Mark's mind for now. n/t DFW Monday #47

An outstanding contender. Put him in Arazi Nov 24 #15

Great potential candidate of many. Halicarnassus Nov 24 #16

Fetterman? DFW Monday #48

Fetterman Keepthesoulalive Monday #77

if markie Nov 24 #17

Maybe Renew Deal Nov 24 #19

He's complicated. mr715 Nov 24 #20

He was my choice for Harris's VP nt Blasphemer Nov 25 #23

Mine, too DFW Monday #49

He's ok, but I'm still rooting for Newsom or Whitmer. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 25 #24

It's 2025. nt Gore1FL Nov 25 #26

I would definitely vote for him. StarryNite Nov 25 #27

Never Going To Happen. And Maybe I'm Little Ms. Superficial, But.... ColoringFool Nov 25 #29

I suspect it will be a red state or swing state governor but Newsom will fight to the bitter end. nt Blasphemer Sunday #33

I like a Newsom/Beshear ticket RazorbackExpat Monday #61

yes nt hookaleft Sunday #34

something that bothers me about Newsom Skittles Monday #55

I suggested him earlier. murielm99 Nov 25 #30

I have known Gabby since before she was shot DFW Monday #50

He'll be 'too nice' for the role JustAnotherGen Nov 25 #31

Nice guy, but not a lot of charisma. tinrobot Nov 25 #32

Spot on. Abolishinist Sunday #35

I don't know if he wants it Boo1 Sunday #36

His Senate seat is also up for reelection in 2028. I prefer we keep that seat, Emile Sunday #37

I'll wait on that. Autumn Sunday #38

I sure do like Kelly, but I worry he's not charismatic pinkstarburst Sunday #39

Yes, and what a shame THAT is DFW Monday #51

I could easily support him. Gabby would be an asset, too. Maybe we'd finally get some action on guns. Vinca Sunday #40

That would be a given DFW Monday #52

While he is a possible candidate, it's too early to start on this, I believe. MineralMan Sunday #41

Too early to concentrate on or obsess over DFW Monday #53

Very, VERY unfortunately, we need a presidential candidate that Republican voters will vote for too. Why? Because LaMouffette Monday #57

Republicans DON'T VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, PERIOD! Especially one Emile Monday #62

Only 31% of voters are Republicans krawhitham Monday #70

The primaries of 2028 should be very entertaining. Ping Tung Monday #65

Nah, he's fine in the Senate. BlueTsunami2018 Monday #66

Hard Pass krawhitham Monday #68

He's at the top of my list, but the Party needs to improve its image gulliver Monday #71

We are not the ones pushing identity politics Keepthesoulalive Monday #79

We've been doing it a lot less gulliver Monday #81

The republicans won on Trans bathrooms Keepthesoulalive Monday #82

He won't be at the top of my list, but I think he would be a strong candidate. BannonsLiver Monday #72

He hasn't shown me the requisite charisma. maxsolomon Monday #73

Solid candidate, but... LudwigPastorius Monday #74

When Kamala was picking VP candidates MustLoveBeagles Monday #75

I'd vote for him John Coktosten Monday #76

"She cannot be POTUS, she is not eligible." J_William_Ryan Monday #78

Let's not and say we did MakeThemCry Monday #80

I doubt he'd do it. xmas74 Monday #83