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karynnj

(60,719 posts)
43. Could it be "the safe choice" is defined as the person
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:25 PM
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with a solid resume, some proven leadership, and likely better name recognition without obvious baggage.

Calling someone the safe choice is a misnomer. Although the media, some historians and many ordinary people want to ascribe the winner of the election as the "better choice",this is a comforting mythification.. Now, Trump having won twice should end that spurious logic.

You can always HYPOTHESIZE that a different choice might have changed a Democratic loss to a win, but it is not possible to know. You mention 2016, but Bernie NEVER went through the scrutiny that candidates considered potential winners are given in either the primaries or general election. It is true he might have won people Clinton lost, but he might have lost people who she won. Your best argument might be that it was a good year to appear to be an outsider.

In 2024, the process for Harris becoming the nominee was as bad as any in my life .. and I remember McGovern dropping Eagleton. Had Biden announced he was not running, the primaries would have given her or any other nominee some lift. Biden did some remarkable things, but he should have given Harris the type of high profile, important and likely successful roles Obama gave him. Additionally, after the midterms, he should have seriously considered announcing he wanted to concentrate on being President - if only because it was clear the media had already labeled him too old.

I think one major element in Harris losing was the war in Gaza. There was no politically good US role. The US did negotiate getting many hostages out and ceasefires that were quickly broken. We limited some weapons, but still supplied enormous amounts of bombs. People on both sides disagreed with this position.

It might have been if there were primaries no candidate, including Harris, would have been as connected to current policy.

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Ay yay yay Prairie Gates Friday #1
I like her but if this country can't even accept someone like Clinton or Harris, travelingthrulife Friday #2
This nation won't elect a woman. Squaredeal Friday #17
Yes, and I don't think the third time will be the charm in the situation Walleye Friday #27
The sad truth Lithos Friday #77
If you want a Republican in the White House in 2029 Bluestocking Friday #3
What about her? MineralMan Friday #4
kelly rampartd Friday #5
We cannot afford to not take a chance imo. Just like we did with Obama. yellowcanine Friday #9
"Dems overthink the electability issue, imo." stopdiggin Friday #26
I think most women would agree that Harris and Clinton were not safe choices.We know, we're used to disappointmennt. Walleye Friday #32
Oh, please. W_HAMILTON Friday #39
Could it be "the safe choice" is defined as the person karynnj Friday #43
No sheshe2 Friday #79
I think AOC would be a great senator. yardwork Friday #6
My home state AltairIV Friday #68
Yes, it really is too early to talk about 2028. PoindexterOglethorpe Friday #7
You are very right. Big Blue Marble Friday #76
I seriously doubt they would do that. PoindexterOglethorpe Friday #84
As Michelle Obama said "this country isn't ready for a woman president". Ferryboat Friday #8
That's right, the female leaders in other countries are not in command of the largest military in the world. That's it Walleye Friday #33
I'm all in on AOC for POTUS -misanthroptimist Friday #10
There isn't an example in the last 125 years of someone from the House successfully running for president Buckeyeblue Friday #11
Governors tend to be elected President FalloutShelter Friday #65
She should run for Senate in 2028. Schumer so needs to go, and if he insists on running again, AOC can defeat him. Celerity Friday #12
You are right SocialDemocrat61 Friday #69
Celerity........... Upthevibe Friday #80
I think she needs to build her resume. GreenWave Friday #87
I would love it mvd Friday #13
mvd.......... Upthevibe Friday #81
No. As Michelle Obama said the US isn't ready for a woman President Ritabert Friday #14
I love Kelly as my Senator and as a very honorable man, but he's not electable as POTUS AZJonnie Friday #21
You're right. I like Pritzker too. Ritabert Friday #25
Pritzker is my 1st choice, if he chooses to run SheltieLover Friday #34
JB is good on his feet duckworth969 Friday #72
Sadly, but for the violence, his wife might have been President karynnj Friday #35
AZJonnie......... Upthevibe Friday #82
Pritzker or Newsom for me JustAnotherGen Friday #90
If you want to lose another election, sure why not awesomerwb1 Friday #15
awesomerwb1........... Upthevibe Friday #83
No Mz Pip Friday #16
It is too soon, but regardless, this country is clearly too deeply misogynistic Ocelot II Friday #18
A woman will not be the 2028 Dem nominee Fiendish Thingy Friday #19
Pete for President CurtEastPoint Friday #20
He would have a much better chance than AOC and I would absolutely LOVE to vote for Pete AZJonnie Friday #22
AZJonnie............. Upthevibe Friday #85
If Pete runs, he has my vote pinkstarburst Friday #49
Who also has never won a statewide election MichMan Friday #89
She's the best candidate if we wanna lose all 50 states nycbos Friday #23
nycbos......... Upthevibe Friday #86
What's the definition of insanity? dem4decades Friday #24
The truth is Jilly_in_VA Friday #28
well, there's a trial ballon .... gunned into rags and tatters within a matter of minutes ! - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Friday #29
No. This will result in President Vance Blumancru Friday #30
Newsom/Shapiro Is My Ticket, Also! The Latter Is My Governor.... ColoringFool Friday #48
We need someone who will win. And that means someone who dumbshit American voters RockRaven Friday #31
I do agree mvd Friday #40
This is a complete and utter horseshite suggestion. murielm99 Friday #36
Josh Shspiro OLDMDDEM Friday #37
My list of favorites: Shapiro, Goldman or Newsom. Paladin Friday #45
Dan Goldman? He has only served in the US House since 2023. Celerity Friday #51
Goldman is smart, accomplished, and has a great media presence. Paladin Friday #55
My concern about Shapiro: Upthevibe Friday #88
she won't win the general election rollin74 Friday #38
Have been very impressed... BH liberal Friday #41
Strident Critics Corktown Friday #63
Yes it is. We have the midterms to crush first, we should concentrate on that first. ms liberty Friday #42
Not yet. (She'll get there, but not this cycle.) aeromanKC Friday #44
Would love to see her elected. A lot can change by 2028, but don't see her doing well in most states. I'd vote for her. Silent Type Friday #46
Definition of "Insanity": Nominating A 3rd Woman For President...... ColoringFool Friday #47
No Greg_In_SF Friday #50
people need to come to terms Stacey Grove Friday #52
Secure the vote first Easterncedar Friday #53
Nope VanceFan Friday #54
How does she get to 270 electoral votes? fujiyamasan Friday #56
Yes ._. Friday #57
Nope. gulliver Friday #58
She needs to be VP krawhitham Friday #59
Kamala Harris was charismatic, articulate, had impeccable progressive credentials. betsuni Friday #60
My current favorite is... Mike Nelson Friday #61
We don't even know if she can win a statewide office yet. nt Blasphemer Friday #62
Republicans cheat. Chemical Bill Friday #64
AOC replaces Schumer as NY Senator in 2028. PufPuf23 Friday #66
Not my choice. Happy Hoosier Friday #67
I like her, but seriously we HAVE to decisively win next time. Until we secure our democracy, I'd prefer that we avoid ecstatic Friday #70
Let's help AOC beat Chuck duckworth969 Friday #71
I think AOC should run for Schumer's Senate seat in 2028 red dog 1 Friday #73
No. We've had two female candidates and they both lost. Initech Friday #74
Newsom yes JustAnotherGen Friday #91
She needs to run and win as Senator first JI7 Friday #75
Fine with me but the Politics as Usual brigade will flood the media with ""Too Liberal" fears. Ping Tung Friday #78
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