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yellow dahlia

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170. I never accused Marc Elias of being complicit in a cover up.

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 11:35 PM

19 hrs ago

If he chose not to force action, that it is not the same thing as being complicit in a cover up. I think and speak in nuance - not absolutes. Apparently I think and communicate differently than you. I do not put words in peoples' mouths. I ask questions for clarification. I choose not to try and explain the difference to you.

I will continue to LOVE Marc Elias and continue to donate to Democracy Docket.

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Kamala won gab13by13 Yesterday #1

In NC, barbtries Yesterday #9

This. Many of us here don't, and I'm one too. ms liberty Yesterday #19

Two Months Between Election and Inauguration Mr.Bee Yesterday #35

Paper ballot hand recounts were necessary. yellow dahlia Yesterday #110

I kept screaming for recounts on social media and to the dem leadership. 58Sunliner 22 hrs ago #156

Yup. I was jumping up and down... yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #158

No one wanted to pay the hundreds of millions they would have cost n/t MichMan 22 hrs ago #160

Unfortunate, given the costs to this country right now. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #161

Same in Michigan. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #87

Same with Oakland County. llmart 23 hrs ago #146

Not Believable. yellow dahlia Yesterday #109

When 90 percent of districts moved right, it's not a surprise Harris didn't flip any EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #14

This interview did not give enough time angryxyouth Yesterday #55

I've gone to their website. It's not even remotely evidence EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #58

They don't claim to have the evidence. Chemical Bill Yesterday #133

The election truth alliance sure spends a lot of time arguing that they have evidence EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #166

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Unless we figure out a way to stop it. I'm sure that is where they are going next Maraya1969 Yesterday #31

How can you stop something that isn't happening? Nt Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #67

So sus! yellow dahlia Yesterday #112

Election fraud denialism hasn't served our cause these past 25 years. Chemical Bill Yesterday #135

2000 wasn't an election fraud issue Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #147

Well... Chemical Bill 21 hrs ago #162

Words have meaning Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #163

The recounts in 2016 showed... Chemical Bill 20 hrs ago #164

Jill Stein paid for recounts in a few states MichMan 20 hrs ago #168

I agree... Chemical Bill 9 hrs ago #177

Typically Recounts aren't done unless the margin is Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #171

I'm sorry you didn't follow the 2016 election. Chemical Bill 8 hrs ago #178

I followed the election and the aftermath Fiendish Thingy 8 hrs ago #181

Actually what is being shown is the reported totals don't seem to be accurate questionseverything 12 hrs ago #173

ding. the election was stolen AllaN01Bear Yesterday #29

Yup! yellow dahlia Yesterday #108

He overperformed nearly everywhere Polybius Yesterday #130

Overperformance by an opponent should be expected Fiendish Thingy 8 hrs ago #182

I wake up every morning and the things about which I have certainty continue to diminish.... hlthe2b Yesterday #2

Pakman is not credible SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #3

If you go to their website, the "evidence" is non-existent EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #10

Trump administration is manipulating employment and autism statistics bucolic_frolic Yesterday #4

manipulating? barbtries Yesterday #8

Trump pulling numbers out of his ass is not data manipulation. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #142

Please stop it. They have not manipulated employment data. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #140

He fired the statistician because he didn't like the numbers. So you please open your eyes. /nt bucolic_frolic 23 hrs ago #143

Don't even go there. You're way out of your league. Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #157

me too Malaise. barbtries Yesterday #5

I mean it's not like they didn't steal elections before. gab13by13 Yesterday #13

thank you for remembering, especially Ohio barbtries Yesterday #17

Right yellow dahlia Yesterday #114

And Humphrey would have won had nixon not committed treason. Clouds Passing Yesterday #24

I don't know this story, barbtries Yesterday #32

Thom Hartmann tells the story about how Nixon went to the Vietnamese and asking them Clouds Passing Yesterday #96

Thom Hartmann tells the story. The Nixon people negotiated with the Vietnamese to continue the war Clouds Passing Yesterday #98

The party of "family values" is devoid of values. Bluepinky Yesterday #30

I think Kamala won. Al Gore won. John Kerry won. Mr.Bee Yesterday #37

yep. barbtries Yesterday #40

legitimately elected president Mr.Bee Yesterday #48

Absolutely -so cataclysmic and catastrophic. yellow dahlia Yesterday #115

Don't forget Hillary. Chemical Bill 23 hrs ago #138

Yup! yellow dahlia Yesterday #113

"Bombshell" my ass. "Clickbait," more like. malthaussen Yesterday #6

Comparing 2020 to 2024 is meaningless. gab13by13 Yesterday #18

Nope, it's the same ridiculous conspiracy theories, just different mouths moving. tritsofme Yesterday #72

Agree yellow dahlia Yesterday #116

You're never gonna give this one up, are ya? Polybius Yesterday #131

In 2020, there were hand counted paper ballot recounts. Chemical Bill 23 hrs ago #139

Kamala won. Musk, Peter Theil, Palantir, Eaton, and others were into the vote data. Botany Yesterday #7

I heard the tabulators used cellular uplinks IbogaProject Yesterday #46

Musk had 265 low earth orbit satellites turned on on October, 30 2024 that gave him and his crews Botany Yesterday #61

They even bragged about it. yellow dahlia Yesterday #119

This! yellow dahlia Yesterday #118

Absofuckinglutely! yellow dahlia Yesterday #117

I just wat to say one word: Duh! slightlv Yesterday #11

Easily refuted clickbait nonsense Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #12

A forensic audit was never done, gab13by13 Yesterday #16

There's no such thing Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #22

You don't listen to the material and you present an article that uses a " theory " that is clearly explained away questionseverything Yesterday #84

Blah, blah, blah Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #89

So you are admitting you have not read or listened to any of the material presented questionseverything Yesterday #91

I have been exposed to every evidence-free, cockamamie 2024 election-denying conspiracy theory out there Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #94

I heard they stole it using Jewish Space Lasers! 🤣🙄 Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #145

From one member of the reality based community to another... Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #148

I am right there with you, malaise. llmart Yesterday #20

Agree. yellow dahlia Yesterday #121

It's hard for me to believe that Trump's army of marching morons totaled 77,000,000 Americans RVN VET71 Yesterday #21

I wrote about it in February Mr.Bee Yesterday #23

And it was removed, wasn't it? MichMan Yesterday #27

Sounds like the jury made a wise decision. tritsofme Yesterday #73

That's Right! Mr.Bee 8 hrs ago #180

How about AverageOldGuy Yesterday #25

2034 Mr.Bee Yesterday #38

My concern is there won't be an election in 2026. rubbersole Yesterday #51

Me too. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #26

Agree karin_sj Yesterday #28

The real question we need to be asking ourselves KS Toronado Yesterday #33

THIS malaise Yesterday #42

Let me help you out Malaise..... KS Toronado Yesterday #43

YES. fully agree. I and i feel ALL others here cannot prove 100% if the election WAS or WAS NOT stolen. bluestarone Yesterday #60

I have often wondered why someone in our party KS Toronado Yesterday #62

What polls are you talking about? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #65

Prior to the election there were plenty of pools showing us winning KS Toronado Yesterday #68

That's not an answer EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #69

Why are you attacking me? KS Toronado Yesterday #74

Nothing I have said is even remotely an attack EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #85

human nature RoseTrellis 8 hrs ago #179

Because this entire election denial narrative is garbage? tritsofme Yesterday #75

Transparency in elections is not nonsense ...Geesh questionseverything Yesterday #90

No, but these delusional conspiracy theories sure are. tritsofme Yesterday #99

Ms Harris is not a computer scientist or programmer so how could this be on her? questionseverything Yesterday #106

All we need to do is handcount the precincts that are suspicious in Pennsylvania questionseverything Yesterday #83

Been doing ouside duties here. I've heard of NO surveys being done. bluestarone Yesterday #100

Elias is a lawyer not a computer programmer questionseverything Yesterday #105

Hasn't he watched all the same videos that claim to prove it was stolen? MichMan Yesterday #107

Right. yellow dahlia Yesterday #126

I do understand that. bluestarone Yesterday #137

I wonder if Marc Elias was advised to stay away from any form of yellow dahlia Yesterday #124

So you're questioning the integrity of Marc Elias? Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #149

I LOVE Marc Elias. yellow dahlia 23 hrs ago #152

If you think Marc Elias would listen to the consultants, you're absolutely questioning Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #155

If you know him, and apparently you profess to, yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #159

Now these delusional conspiracy theories make people like Marc Elias complicit in covering up a stolen election? tritsofme 20 hrs ago #165

Are you accusing me of asserting that Marc Elias was complicit yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #167

Your post absolutely accuses Elias of being complicit tritsofme 20 hrs ago #169

I never accused Marc Elias of being complicit in a cover up. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #170

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You don't have to get conspiratorial, they cheated in the usual and obvious ways unblock Yesterday #34

All true, in addition why would Musk spend nearly 300 million if they could win by cheating the system anyway. . Doodley Yesterday #59

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We all pretty much agree that repubs cheat every chance they get questionseverything Yesterday #86

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Yup SSJVegeta Yesterday #53

Every one of these arguments SCantiGOP Yesterday #39

Why is david pakman promoting this BS? SSJVegeta Yesterday #54

smartelections.us, a nonpartisan organization, is also looking into election fraud via computerized voting systems. Bluepinky Yesterday #41

If it is so widespread, why choose a few tiny precincts in a state that Harris won? MichMan Yesterday #45

Go to their website and watch the videos about their findings, very informative. Bluepinky Yesterday #49

What happens if the hand count in Rockland County NY doesn't pan out to show anything nefarious? MichMan Yesterday #102

We won't know until it's completed. Let's see what it shows. Bluepinky Yesterday #122

The Rockland County lawsuit is a joke. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #151

Why would you say that? All they want is to hand count the ballots questionseverything 12 hrs ago #175

I've written about this many times already. I don't feel like repeating myself Wiz Imp 8 hrs ago #183

If there is anyone in the world that would try to steal an election... kentuck Yesterday #44

SmartEleactions.us Sept 29, 8 pm ET. Election Verification Orientation. annielion Yesterday #47

That's great! SmartElections.us is so important and informative. Bluepinky Yesterday #52

De rec. Sorry sis, but on this subject we most definitely part ways. Celerity Yesterday #56

Just out of curiosity, do you acknowledge that volkswagons cheating software existed? questionseverything Yesterday #125

I live in a swing state, Georgia. We received 12, yes 12, no exaggeration 12 flyers for Trump. None for Harris. Doodley Yesterday #57

Both may be true. Bluepinky Yesterday #66

Doubt the 2024 POTUS election more over time. PufPuf23 Yesterday #63

Saw that. returnee Yesterday #64

Another angle: returnee Yesterday #70

Yes. I have identified the same possible reverse psy-ops type technique. yellow dahlia Yesterday #129

This election denial nonsense is actually a malicious attack on the character of Kamala Harris tritsofme Yesterday #71

And the elected officials of the swing states MichMan Yesterday #101

Exactly. These attacks against Harris and Democrats really are pathetic. tritsofme Yesterday #104

It took months and dozens of workers to find this evidence questionseverything Yesterday #111

Yet within minutes of Harris' concession people were already pushing unfounded conspiracy theories. tritsofme Yesterday #120

How would they catch it? Can they look into the computer guts questionseverything Yesterday #123

There was nothing to catch, except in the imagination of the folks so enthralled with these conspiracy theories. tritsofme Yesterday #127

I never thought he won fair and square and the muskrat rigged the election in his favor kimbutgar Yesterday #76

Sounds like the exact same sort of election denial conspiracy theories Trumpers pushed in 2020. tritsofme Yesterday #77

I agree with your comment and for a long time didn't want to think it was real but as time goes on I feel that way. kimbutgar Yesterday #78

I'm disappointed and angry with my neighbors for choosing this evil tritsofme Yesterday #79

Which voting machine companies are owned by democrats? questionseverything Yesterday #95

Not just many, ALL of the swing states except for Georgia had Democratic Governors Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #153

Repubs don't have to control the state, they already control the vote counting and reporting machines questionseverything Yesterday #88

To think he won honestly is to defy logic, common sense, and facts. Irish_Dem Yesterday #80

Ding ding malaise Yesterday #92

If this were a criminal investigation it would be a slam dunk. Irish_Dem Yesterday #97

Always ask the question - who benefits? yellow dahlia Yesterday #134

Yep Irish_Dem Yesterday #136

Yup! and Yup! yellow dahlia Yesterday #132

Not enough data to convince me, but Coldwater Yesterday #81

I don't know where you were, but Trump wasn't remotely quiet immediately after the election Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #154

I like mayonnaise, also. Much better than miracle whip. madinmaryland Yesterday #82

K&R spanone 23 hrs ago #144

We know she actually won Roxi 18 hrs ago #172

I hope we know tge truth before I croak malaise 12 hrs ago #174

I never thought Trump won. OLDMDDEM 12 hrs ago #176

Taking into account repugs physically took election machines to run "forensics" on them GreenWave 7 hrs ago #184