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8. manipulating?

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 09:07 AM

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magats and krasnov just pull numbers out of their collective ass. 300 million dead from overdoses. highest ratings in the history of creation. Inflation going down, jobs are up, tariffs are the best thing this FUCK ever did.

i'm still outraged that stephen miller, in the Oval Office, told a bald faced lie that an 0-9 decision that was in fact, a loss for the ~~abomination~~ administration was a 9-0 win. He said this directly to the president in the presence of the "press" (apparently they only allow "press" that is not concerned with reporting facts), on camera, on the record. Bald faced lie with no push back whatsoever, making sure that krasnov's cult and possibly even krasnov himself believe the lie.

They're like miles and years ahead of manipulation. The full time job of everyone in this ~~abomination~~ administration is Propaganda. Full stop.

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I remain doubting malaise [View all] malaise Yesterday OP

Kamala won gab13by13 Yesterday #1

In NC, barbtries Yesterday #9

This. Many of us here don't, and I'm one too. ms liberty Yesterday #19

Two Months Between Election and Inauguration Mr.Bee Yesterday #35

Paper ballot hand recounts were necessary. yellow dahlia Yesterday #110

I kept screaming for recounts on social media and to the dem leadership. 58Sunliner 22 hrs ago #156

Yup. I was jumping up and down... yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #158

No one wanted to pay the hundreds of millions they would have cost n/t MichMan 22 hrs ago #160

Unfortunate, given the costs to this country right now. yellow dahlia 21 hrs ago #161

Same in Michigan. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #87

Same with Oakland County. llmart 23 hrs ago #146

Not Believable. yellow dahlia Yesterday #109

When 90 percent of districts moved right, it's not a surprise Harris didn't flip any EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #14

This interview did not give enough time angryxyouth Yesterday #55

I've gone to their website. It's not even remotely evidence EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #58

They don't claim to have the evidence. Chemical Bill Yesterday #133

The election truth alliance sure spends a lot of time arguing that they have evidence EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #166

What I would like to see are a bunch of controls intrepidity Yesterday #128

Election denialism doesn't serve our cause Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #15

Unless we figure out a way to stop it. I'm sure that is where they are going next Maraya1969 Yesterday #31

How can you stop something that isn't happening? Nt Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #67

So sus! yellow dahlia Yesterday #112

Election fraud denialism hasn't served our cause these past 25 years. Chemical Bill Yesterday #135

2000 wasn't an election fraud issue Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #147

Well... Chemical Bill 21 hrs ago #162

Words have meaning Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #163

The recounts in 2016 showed... Chemical Bill 20 hrs ago #164

Jill Stein paid for recounts in a few states MichMan 20 hrs ago #168

I agree... Chemical Bill 9 hrs ago #177

Typically Recounts aren't done unless the margin is Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #171

I'm sorry you didn't follow the 2016 election. Chemical Bill 8 hrs ago #178

I followed the election and the aftermath Fiendish Thingy 8 hrs ago #181

Actually what is being shown is the reported totals don't seem to be accurate questionseverything 12 hrs ago #173

ding. the election was stolen AllaN01Bear Yesterday #29

Yup! yellow dahlia Yesterday #108

He overperformed nearly everywhere Polybius Yesterday #130

Overperformance by an opponent should be expected Fiendish Thingy 8 hrs ago #182

I wake up every morning and the things about which I have certainty continue to diminish.... hlthe2b Yesterday #2

Pakman is not credible SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #3

If you go to their website, the "evidence" is non-existent EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #10

Trump administration is manipulating employment and autism statistics bucolic_frolic Yesterday #4

manipulating? barbtries Yesterday #8

Trump pulling numbers out of his ass is not data manipulation. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #142

Please stop it. They have not manipulated employment data. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #140

He fired the statistician because he didn't like the numbers. So you please open your eyes. /nt bucolic_frolic 23 hrs ago #143

Don't even go there. You're way out of your league. Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #157

me too Malaise. barbtries Yesterday #5

I mean it's not like they didn't steal elections before. gab13by13 Yesterday #13

thank you for remembering, especially Ohio barbtries Yesterday #17

Right yellow dahlia Yesterday #114

And Humphrey would have won had nixon not committed treason. Clouds Passing Yesterday #24

I don't know this story, barbtries Yesterday #32

Thom Hartmann tells the story about how Nixon went to the Vietnamese and asking them Clouds Passing Yesterday #96

Thom Hartmann tells the story. The Nixon people negotiated with the Vietnamese to continue the war Clouds Passing Yesterday #98

The party of "family values" is devoid of values. Bluepinky Yesterday #30

I think Kamala won. Al Gore won. John Kerry won. Mr.Bee Yesterday #37

yep. barbtries Yesterday #40

legitimately elected president Mr.Bee Yesterday #48

Absolutely -so cataclysmic and catastrophic. yellow dahlia Yesterday #115

Don't forget Hillary. Chemical Bill Yesterday #138

Yup! yellow dahlia Yesterday #113

"Bombshell" my ass. "Clickbait," more like. malthaussen Yesterday #6

Comparing 2020 to 2024 is meaningless. gab13by13 Yesterday #18

Nope, it's the same ridiculous conspiracy theories, just different mouths moving. tritsofme Yesterday #72

Agree yellow dahlia Yesterday #116

You're never gonna give this one up, are ya? Polybius Yesterday #131

In 2020, there were hand counted paper ballot recounts. Chemical Bill 23 hrs ago #139

Kamala won. Musk, Peter Theil, Palantir, Eaton, and others were into the vote data. Botany Yesterday #7

I heard the tabulators used cellular uplinks IbogaProject Yesterday #46

Musk had 265 low earth orbit satellites turned on on October, 30 2024 that gave him and his crews Botany Yesterday #61

They even bragged about it. yellow dahlia Yesterday #119

This! yellow dahlia Yesterday #118

Absofuckinglutely! yellow dahlia Yesterday #117

I just wat to say one word: Duh! slightlv Yesterday #11

Easily refuted clickbait nonsense Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #12

A forensic audit was never done, gab13by13 Yesterday #16

There's no such thing Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #22

You don't listen to the material and you present an article that uses a " theory " that is clearly explained away questionseverything Yesterday #84

Blah, blah, blah Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #89

So you are admitting you have not read or listened to any of the material presented questionseverything Yesterday #91

I have been exposed to every evidence-free, cockamamie 2024 election-denying conspiracy theory out there Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #94

I heard they stole it using Jewish Space Lasers! 🤣🙄 Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #145

From one member of the reality based community to another... Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #148

I am right there with you, malaise. llmart Yesterday #20

Agree. yellow dahlia Yesterday #121

It's hard for me to believe that Trump's army of marching morons totaled 77,000,000 Americans RVN VET71 Yesterday #21

I wrote about it in February Mr.Bee Yesterday #23

And it was removed, wasn't it? MichMan Yesterday #27

Sounds like the jury made a wise decision. tritsofme Yesterday #73

That's Right! Mr.Bee 8 hrs ago #180

How about AverageOldGuy Yesterday #25

2034 Mr.Bee Yesterday #38

My concern is there won't be an election in 2026. rubbersole Yesterday #51

Me too. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #26

Agree karin_sj Yesterday #28

The real question we need to be asking ourselves KS Toronado Yesterday #33

THIS malaise Yesterday #42

Let me help you out Malaise..... KS Toronado Yesterday #43

YES. fully agree. I and i feel ALL others here cannot prove 100% if the election WAS or WAS NOT stolen. bluestarone Yesterday #60

I have often wondered why someone in our party KS Toronado Yesterday #62

What polls are you talking about? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #65

Prior to the election there were plenty of pools showing us winning KS Toronado Yesterday #68

That's not an answer EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #69

Why are you attacking me? KS Toronado Yesterday #74

Nothing I have said is even remotely an attack EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #85

human nature RoseTrellis 8 hrs ago #179

Because this entire election denial narrative is garbage? tritsofme Yesterday #75

Transparency in elections is not nonsense ...Geesh questionseverything Yesterday #90

No, but these delusional conspiracy theories sure are. tritsofme Yesterday #99

Ms Harris is not a computer scientist or programmer so how could this be on her? questionseverything Yesterday #106

All we need to do is handcount the precincts that are suspicious in Pennsylvania questionseverything Yesterday #83

Been doing ouside duties here. I've heard of NO surveys being done. bluestarone Yesterday #100

Elias is a lawyer not a computer programmer questionseverything Yesterday #105

Hasn't he watched all the same videos that claim to prove it was stolen? MichMan Yesterday #107

Right. yellow dahlia Yesterday #126

I do understand that. bluestarone Yesterday #137

I wonder if Marc Elias was advised to stay away from any form of yellow dahlia Yesterday #124

So you're questioning the integrity of Marc Elias? Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #149

I LOVE Marc Elias. yellow dahlia 23 hrs ago #152

If you think Marc Elias would listen to the consultants, you're absolutely questioning Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #155

If you know him, and apparently you profess to, yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #159

Now these delusional conspiracy theories make people like Marc Elias complicit in covering up a stolen election? tritsofme 20 hrs ago #165

Are you accusing me of asserting that Marc Elias was complicit yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #167

Your post absolutely accuses Elias of being complicit tritsofme 20 hrs ago #169

I never accused Marc Elias of being complicit in a cover up. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #170

First we have to identify the problem questionseverything Yesterday #103

You don't have to get conspiratorial, they cheated in the usual and obvious ways unblock Yesterday #34

All true, in addition why would Musk spend nearly 300 million if they could win by cheating the system anyway. . Doodley Yesterday #59

I do have a theory about musk buying those names of people that weren't registered to vote yet questionseverything Yesterday #93

And if Musk could cheat to elect Trump, why didn't it work in the Wisconsin SC election? Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #150

We all pretty much agree that repubs cheat every chance they get questionseverything Yesterday #86

There's certainly no sense of ethics at work there, to be sure. unblock 23 hrs ago #141

I mean. He won enough. For instance (anecdotal) SSJVegeta Yesterday #36

Yep I felt the fix was in as soon as Oct 7 happened IbogaProject Yesterday #50

Yup SSJVegeta Yesterday #53

Every one of these arguments SCantiGOP Yesterday #39

Why is david pakman promoting this BS? SSJVegeta Yesterday #54

smartelections.us, a nonpartisan organization, is also looking into election fraud via computerized voting systems. Bluepinky Yesterday #41

If it is so widespread, why choose a few tiny precincts in a state that Harris won? MichMan Yesterday #45

Go to their website and watch the videos about their findings, very informative. Bluepinky Yesterday #49

What happens if the hand count in Rockland County NY doesn't pan out to show anything nefarious? MichMan Yesterday #102

We won't know until it's completed. Let's see what it shows. Bluepinky Yesterday #122

The Rockland County lawsuit is a joke. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #151

Why would you say that? All they want is to hand count the ballots questionseverything 12 hrs ago #175

I've written about this many times already. I don't feel like repeating myself Wiz Imp 8 hrs ago #183

If there is anyone in the world that would try to steal an election... kentuck Yesterday #44

SmartEleactions.us Sept 29, 8 pm ET. Election Verification Orientation. annielion Yesterday #47

That's great! SmartElections.us is so important and informative. Bluepinky Yesterday #52

De rec. Sorry sis, but on this subject we most definitely part ways. Celerity Yesterday #56

Just out of curiosity, do you acknowledge that volkswagons cheating software existed? questionseverything Yesterday #125

I live in a swing state, Georgia. We received 12, yes 12, no exaggeration 12 flyers for Trump. None for Harris. Doodley Yesterday #57

Both may be true. Bluepinky Yesterday #66

Doubt the 2024 POTUS election more over time. PufPuf23 Yesterday #63

Saw that. returnee Yesterday #64

Another angle: returnee Yesterday #70

Yes. I have identified the same possible reverse psy-ops type technique. yellow dahlia Yesterday #129

This election denial nonsense is actually a malicious attack on the character of Kamala Harris tritsofme Yesterday #71

And the elected officials of the swing states MichMan Yesterday #101

Exactly. These attacks against Harris and Democrats really are pathetic. tritsofme Yesterday #104

It took months and dozens of workers to find this evidence questionseverything Yesterday #111

Yet within minutes of Harris' concession people were already pushing unfounded conspiracy theories. tritsofme Yesterday #120

How would they catch it? Can they look into the computer guts questionseverything Yesterday #123

There was nothing to catch, except in the imagination of the folks so enthralled with these conspiracy theories. tritsofme Yesterday #127

I never thought he won fair and square and the muskrat rigged the election in his favor kimbutgar Yesterday #76

Sounds like the exact same sort of election denial conspiracy theories Trumpers pushed in 2020. tritsofme Yesterday #77

I agree with your comment and for a long time didn't want to think it was real but as time goes on I feel that way. kimbutgar Yesterday #78

I'm disappointed and angry with my neighbors for choosing this evil tritsofme Yesterday #79

Which voting machine companies are owned by democrats? questionseverything Yesterday #95

Not just many, ALL of the swing states except for Georgia had Democratic Governors Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #153

Repubs don't have to control the state, they already control the vote counting and reporting machines questionseverything Yesterday #88

To think he won honestly is to defy logic, common sense, and facts. Irish_Dem Yesterday #80

Ding ding malaise Yesterday #92

If this were a criminal investigation it would be a slam dunk. Irish_Dem Yesterday #97

Always ask the question - who benefits? yellow dahlia Yesterday #134

Yep Irish_Dem Yesterday #136

Yup! and Yup! yellow dahlia Yesterday #132

Not enough data to convince me, but Coldwater Yesterday #81

I don't know where you were, but Trump wasn't remotely quiet immediately after the election Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #154

I like mayonnaise, also. Much better than miracle whip. madinmaryland Yesterday #82

K&R spanone 23 hrs ago #144

We know she actually won Roxi 18 hrs ago #172

I hope we know tge truth before I croak malaise 12 hrs ago #174

I never thought Trump won. OLDMDDEM 12 hrs ago #176

Taking into account repugs physically took election machines to run "forensics" on them GreenWave 7 hrs ago #184