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25. Unfortunately you will get no argument from me about that.

Sun Jul 13, 2025, 08:36 PM

Jul 13

I am 81. I expect that our situation in the US will only get worse. My MAGA brothers see my sister's experience first hand, but they still badmouth the Canadian system. I'll never see single payer, and I expect less and less access to resources as I get older and more infirm.

Fortunately I'm good for now.

But the facts about Canadian health care still stand.

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Who wants Medicare For All? [View all] applegrove Jul 12 OP

Project 2025 is for pushing people into Advantage scams Skittles Jul 12 #1

Well, some of us have been pre paying it for 40 years.... MichMan Jul 12 #2

I started paying Medicare when I was 16. I got benefits at 65 comradebillyboy Jul 13 #5

Sad thing is, a Pew Poll in 2023 showed 57% of population supports universal coverage, but 53% want private insurance. Silent Type Jul 12 #3

re: "recent attitudes about the government's involvement in the healthcare system" rog Jul 13 #20

The government would have no say... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 13 #22

I don't know - I could ask my sister - but here's what I found just now. rog Jul 13 #30

You might be interested in this article, re: Canadian healthcare from an American perspective. rog Jul 13 #31

Here is a less-than-3-minute presentation by a Canadian physician, comparing ... rog Jul 14 #35

Bolded below is what I'm talking about SickOfTheOnePct Jul 14 #36

Here is a province-by-province breakdown as to what's covered. rog Jul 14 #37

Thanks SickOfTheOnePct Jul 14 #38

Are we having an argument???? Jeez, I didn't know. rog Jul 14 #40

Explain it to the 53% who still don't get it after decades. If we can't explain it to them, Silent Type Jul 13 #23

Unfortunately you will get no argument from me about that. rog Jul 13 #25

I want universal government funded healthcare ibegurpard Jul 13 #4

Being an old fart I know what Medicare is and what it comradebillyboy Jul 13 #6

He never mentions Green Mountain Care, when Vermont tried a Medicare for All type plan but couldn't pay for it betsuni Jul 13 #7

Every other developed country has medical coverage for all... why is it only impossible for the US? bsiebs Jul 13 #8

Provinces in Canada each have different healthcare for all. applegrove Jul 13 #9

Democrats have been trying for many decades. Clinton administration "Hillarycare," Obama ACA (zero betsuni Jul 13 #11

Hard to sell voters on a VAT MichMan Jul 13 #19

re: Canadian VAT, via the Tax Policy Center rog Jul 13 #24

"no actual substance" Skittles Jul 13 #10

Me. H2O Man Jul 13 #12

Anyone who doesn't want to continue to suffer until they die in a fascist hellhole where health, science, and quality of Karasu Jul 13 #13

It's not what the people want that matters in the US, it's what the oligarchs want. raccoon Jul 13 #14

Minimum Public Option uponit7771 Jul 13 #15

Think that's best we'll ever get. If it's as good as we think/hope, people will quickly convert. Silent Type Jul 13 #26

A polite reminder to everyone KentuckyWoman Jul 13 #16

Compaired to what we have, it would be a step in the right direction. Emile Jul 13 #17

Yes for sure mvd Jul 13 #18

That would be a nice start Bettie Jul 13 #21

Some states have experience with public/private carriers for Medicaid bucolic_frolic Jul 13 #27

I would like to see a Medicare system for all along with a Medicaid system that does not force hard working in2herbs Jul 13 #28

England seems to be doing nicely B.See Jul 13 #29

20% VAT in the UK MichMan Jul 13 #32

Yes, but B.See Jul 13 #33

This is a link to PNHP's overview of the 2023 Senate bill introduced by Sens Sanders and Dingell and th House Nanjeanne Jul 13 #34

Senator Sanders and co-sponsors. Passages Jul 14 #39

Even Elon Musk's hero Javier Melei... biocube Jul 14 #41