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jgmiller

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20. These "concepts" are not new

Reply to indusurb (Original post)

Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:47 PM

Jul 12

They have existed since the birth of the US. Native Americans and Blacks were in this group then (and still are), then the Irish and so on. Every wave of immigration, whether forced or voluntary has resulted in the rise of some form of "They aren't really Americans".

The thing that scares me is that many times in the last 250 years when this has happened the thing that has pulled us back from the abyss is an event that has forced us to pull together and pretty much all of those events have been a war. Everytime I think about this I think of Steven Bannon's obsession with "The 4th Turning" and bringing it about. He's crazy and extremely dangerous but the general concept of that book can feel eerily correct. America (and the world) does go through cycles, we never learn from history and are always doome to repeat it. I'm afraid we are once again repeating it and the grifters in charge and blindly heading us towards the abyss. The question is what pulls us out this time.

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They're going to come for all of us [View all] indusurb Jul 12 OP

Excellent OP. nt moniss Jul 12 #1

Liberals are their enemy C_U_L8R Jul 12 #2

This past week he introduced the phrase: "Criminal Protesters". JohnnyRingo Jul 12 #3

Just another step in the process of turning us into an authoritarian police state... Wounded Bear Jul 12 #4

A toxic philosophy (pathology) that is destroying our country dlk Jul 12 #5

Their plan is to come after all of us. Hopefully, we will prevent that before it comes to fruition. Martin68 Jul 12 #6

One Thing We Need To Do OhioTim Jul 12 #7

They keep doing everything they can to incite a civil war Grim Chieftain Jul 12 #8

It's what he means by "American" that matters. ananda Jul 12 #9

Should I start carrying my Daughters of the American Revolution certificate around with me? perdita9 Jul 12 #10

Proof your forebear was a "criminal protester" Ellen Forradalom Jul 12 #17

The two articles in the Federalist omitted one key word. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 12 #11

Who died and put these unelected a$$holes in charge MLWR Jul 12 #12

Chump is a convicted felon - why aren't they coming for him? FakeNoose Jul 12 #13

He looks good in stripes. calimary Jul 12 #15

I've been saying this for months Johnny2X2X Jul 12 #14

They won't have to be liberals either ... it will be anybody who's "anti-Trump" FakeNoose Jul 12 #18

Instead of calling them Be The Light Jul 12 #16

I really believe it is to all bring things to a point that Trump can claim the insurrection that he said was happening LiberalArkie Jul 12 #19

Yeah, that was Hitler's ploy but it won't work here FakeNoose Jul 12 #21

He won't get an Article 25 from his crew unless they really want Vance to replace him. Maybe Vance will LiberalArkie Jul 12 #25

These "concepts" are not new jgmiller Jul 12 #20

Thanks for the dire "warnings" MorbidButterflyTat Jul 12 #22

If you want to know what the enemy is thinking indusurb Jul 12 #23

If we don't gather intel on the enemy we are sunk. Irish_Dem Jul 12 #26

That's a bit melodramatic, don't you think? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 13 #30

No, they aren't. H2O Man Jul 12 #24

Bookmarking yellow dahlia Jul 12 #27

Ironic, since deportation without due process is unAmerican Qutzupalotl Jul 12 #28

These Nazi fucks would have rounded up the 8 signers of the Declaration of Independence who were immigrants and... LudwigPastorius Jul 12 #29