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In reply to the discussion: 'I think he hit one. Hell yeah, boy!' US aid workers filmed shooting at Gazans [View all]Beastly Boy
(13,104 posts)23. I don't allow X content to be shown in my browser, but I made an exception this time
And the evidence is underwhelming, to say the least.
The video is dated May 2025. The source is identified as AP.
AP made its own analysis of the video in question, and this is what their experts concluded:
In the video where the men are heard egging each other on, the echo and acoustics of the shots indicate theyre fired from a position close to the microphone, said Rob Maher, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Montana State University and an author and research expert in audio forensic analysis. Maher and the other analyst, Steven Beck, owner of Beck Audio Forensics, said there was no indication that the videos audio had been tampered with.
The analysts said that the bursts of gunfire and the pop sequences in some of the videos indicated that guns were panning in different directions and were not repeatedly aimed at a single target. They could not pinpoint exactly where the shots were coming from nor who was shooting.
https://apnews.com/article/palestinians-israel-gaza-contractors-aid-distribution-fe27f3ea83e06a09d66424eed7a5d56f
The analysts said that the bursts of gunfire and the pop sequences in some of the videos indicated that guns were panning in different directions and were not repeatedly aimed at a single target. They could not pinpoint exactly where the shots were coming from nor who was shooting.
There are parts of the video that were edited out. One can only speculate what those parts contained, but obviously the video doesn't show the whole picture. Since, per AP experts, the shots came from close proximity of the camera, and since they were panning in different directions, and since the alleged scene of the shooting is separated from the camera by mounds at least 15 feet high, it is not only unlikely that the participants in the conversation you are referring to were able to see the alleged scene of the shooting, it is physically impossible for gun fire to hit a target over the mound, no matter where the shots were directed. It is also unlikely that the shooting is in any way related to the recorded conversation, or who or what was hit and under what circumstances. In fact, the compound shown in the video looks nothing like a food distribution center, and there is not a single Palestinian in sight, and not a single person was videotaped discharging a weapon. And, in fact, there is nothing to indicate that the recorded conversation pertains to Gazan civilians in any context.
Yet neither you nor the Guardian hesitate to call it a hit on a civilian. Why?
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'I think he hit one. Hell yeah, boy!' US aid workers filmed shooting at Gazans [View all]
David__77
Jul 5
OP
"Security staff hired to protect the sites were often unqualified and unvetted, and acted with impunity
sop
Jul 5
#2
Looks like they are in fact very "qualified" - in special ops and "unconventional warfare" among other things.
AloeVera
Jul 5
#4
From defending the trigger-happy IDF to defending soulless murdering American mercenaries...
AloeVera
Jul 5
#14
The video does contain unmistakable American-accented voices celebrating possible hits on civilians
David__77
Jul 5
#19
I don't allow X content to be shown in my browser, but I made an exception this time
Beastly Boy
Jul 5
#23
Anytime a government won't allow the press to see, hear or report what's going on
questionseverything
Jul 14
#26
Guilt by assosiation. Assumption of guilt in lieu of evidence. Guilty until proven innocent posing as common sense.
Beastly Boy
Jul 14
#27