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Ms. Toad

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69. And when an acquaintance of mine did almost exactly what Franken is accused of

Wed Jun 25, 2025, 05:36 PM

Jun 25

In just as public a location, not a single person noticed, other than me. No one even noticed my reaction.

Photos mean nothing - they capture a single moment in time from a single perspective. Videos might, if they captured the entire interaction, and were aimed with an unobstructed view.

The OP claimed one accusation, arising out of a staged incident. There were 8, not 1, Ford of which were made by people willing to disclose their names. It wasn't a numbers game until the OP made it one.

I'm not saying he should have been tarred and feathered - or even that he should have made a different choice. I'm even willing to acknowledge that he may be just a very handsy guy and didn't understand he'd crossed boundaries (as was the case with the guy who fondled my butt in public).

Just don't try to pretend that he resigned because of a single staged prank, when there were 8 accusations against him.

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What's The Difference Between Al Franken and Andrew Cuomo? [View all] gab13by13 Jun 25 OP

Yup, the base knows they are going to lose alot in the coming months/years without fighters. Biophilic Jun 25 #1

Al Franken was a comedian first. However misplaced his behavior, it was not malicious... hlthe2b Jun 25 #2

Yep. That was ginned up by Sean Hannity Hassin Bin Sober Jun 25 #11

Absolutely Mossfern Jun 25 #24

I don't remember Franken using the, "When your a star they let you do it" line. Marcuse Jun 25 #46

Yeah, and so was Zelenskyy Jilly_in_VA Jun 25 #12

Did Gillibrand go to his office SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #16

AND DENVERPOPS Jun 25 #19

I haven't been able to stand Gillibrand since Jilly_in_VA Jun 25 #26

What about Harris SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #33

They were wrong, too not fooled Jun 25 #47

But do you hold them equally responsible SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #48

Gillibrand led the charge Jilly_in_VA Jun 25 #70

No I don't know that and neither do you SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #71

Gillibrand was the first senator to make a public statement demanding his resignation Autumn Jun 26 #98

google AI: orleans Jun 26 #85

That doesn't dispute what I said SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #90

which came first? the chicken or the egg? your video is december 6 and so is this one with gillibrand. orleans Jun 26 #99

Look at the time on the video of Harris SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #100

any proof that it WASN'T? orleans Jun 26 #105

I'm not mad at anyone SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #108

you bring to mind an old expression orleans Jun 27 #111

Yes that's exactly right SocialDemocrat61 Jun 27 #112

hey soc, you don't get to make up facts. dwy orleans Jun 27 #113

Neither do you SocialDemocrat61 Jun 27 #114

i'm right there with you. see my post 85. she was the first to lead that anti al charge nt orleans Jun 26 #86

I never realized Harris was that big a factor in removing Captain Zero Jun 25 #77

I wouldn't call it a bigger factor SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #78

You should not fucking pretend that any Dem would go to anyone with a gun and Autumn Jun 26 #84

Not whitewashing anything SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #87

He had no choice but to resign. But yeah pretend otherwise. nt Autumn Jun 26 #88

How did he have no choice? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #91

Yeah I guess so. If you insist on calling Gillibrand a gun. Have a nice day. nt Autumn Jun 26 #93

Gillibrand was one of 39 senators SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #96

Yup... Agree hlthe2b Jun 25 #37

The Dems fell for a Republican con and the overzealousness MadameButterfly Jun 25 #42

Exactly big difference Tribetime Jun 25 #53

100% MuseRider Jun 25 #56

I liked that my senator in Oregon apologized Tree Lady Jun 25 #75

Garcia is a fighter and how is he moderate compared to others ? JI7 Jun 25 #3

Garcia first registered as a Republican, because of Reagan. gab13by13 Jun 25 #7

Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican also JI7 Jun 25 #9

Shut up......REALLY??? I did not know that.....wow a kennedy Jun 25 #13

Yup. The world is full of strange happenings. Joinfortmill Jun 25 #63

Source please Bluestocking Jun 25 #59

My Senator and yes she was 1996 sheshe2 Jun 25 #61

Google has it Joinfortmill Jun 25 #64

Both Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton were republicans List left Jun 25 #66

So was I. SharonAnn Jun 26 #81

Cuomo was drunk. Kid Berwyn Jun 25 #4

Not getting your point. aocommunalpunch Jun 25 #35

Don't get "flex." Kid Berwyn Jun 25 #55

A drunk mouth BigMin28 Jun 25 #49

Thinking about my younger days, I hope not. Joinfortmill Jun 25 #65

Franken can decide to run for office if he wants JI7 Jun 25 #5

Jasmine Crockett was the perfect fit. Quiet Em Jun 25 #6

Lynch finished ahead of Jasmine gab13by13 Jun 25 #8

Of course he did. Quiet Em Jun 25 #10

Correction Jilly_in_VA Jun 25 #15

Fight fire with fire DENVERPOPS Jun 25 #21

I'm pretty sure you are not suggesting that we can only run progressives and minorities in gab13by13 Jun 25 #79

You're absolutely correct. Gimpyknee Jun 25 #25

oh my lord et tu Jun 25 #57

Cuomo was never on Saturday Night Live? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #14

Al Franken's problem wasn't the ill advised prank on Tweeden EdmondDantes_ Jun 25 #17

Unlike Cuomo SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #20

The 8 women who accused him of sexual harassment might beg to differ. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 25 #41

I thought it was just inappropriate touching SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #44

Wonder how many MAGATS can't or won't avoid BattleRow Jun 25 #30

We know Trump can't stop himself from groping women EdmondDantes_ Jun 25 #51

Robert Garcia has a 96.37% score on Progressive Punch -- that's actually HIGHER than Jasmine Crockett (95.52%). W_HAMILTON Jun 25 #18

None of the rigged election or primary allegations SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #23

+1000, it is getting beyond ridiculous. Nixie Jun 25 #52

I'm guessing that this post was written before yesterdays election results Renew Deal Jun 25 #22

Cuomo decided he would run for office again MichMan Jun 25 #27

That's actually a good point. LisaM Jun 25 #34

Franken is likable and smart. Cuomo not so much. QED Jun 25 #28

Frankensense always made sense to me. BattleRow Jun 25 #32

What is 'the base?' elleng Jun 25 #29

And absolutely nothing else came to light after the victim of the 'prank' came forward Jose Garcia Jun 25 #31

There were 8 accusations against Franken. Ms. Toad Jun 25 #39

Four of them were anonymous and the other four *literally* were photographed in public. W_HAMILTON Jun 25 #60

And when an acquaintance of mine did almost exactly what Franken is accused of Ms. Toad Jun 25 #69

The photographs themselves aren't the point -- it's that they were all done in very public settings, during photo ops. W_HAMILTON Jun 26 #97

You obviously haven't read the accusations. Ms. Toad Jun 26 #101

I did. At the time. And went back and re-read them yesterday just to be sure I wasn't forgetting anything. W_HAMILTON Jun 26 #103

Here is a summary of the 8 accusations. Your definition of putting an arm around someone is very odd. Ms. Toad Jun 26 #107

How do anyone know who these Anonymous women are? MagickMuffin Jun 26 #109

Whether you believe the accusations is different from whether accusations were made. Ms. Toad Jun 26 #110

Thanks for your post. I'm a huge admirer of Senator Franken, but I'll take him at his word when he resigned. mjvpi Jun 26 #102

Jimmy Savile groped someone on live TV EdmondDantes_ Jun 26 #82

It's not about it being a deterrent, it's about the fact that we have proof that there was no sexual harassment. W_HAMILTON Jun 26 #95

Al Franken's was just a one-of comedy joke. ananda Jun 25 #36

So 8 accusations is so much better than 11? Ms. Toad Jun 25 #40

You seem to have forgotten that it wasn't just an ill advised prank. Ms. Toad Jun 25 #38

Didn't you know that Franken SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #45

Franken was rude. Cuomo was horrible. (n/t) Iggo Jun 25 #43

Al Franken didn't molest anyone wryter2000 Jun 25 #50

The difference is Chuck Schumer FakeNoose Jun 25 #54

Schumer wasn't silent SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #72

I think he also urged Kristen Killibrand to take a vocal opposition to Franken FakeNoose Jun 25 #73

She was no more vocal than the other senators SocialDemocrat61 Jun 25 #76

Frankenstein. usonian Jun 25 #58

Franken was railroaded. Joinfortmill Jun 25 #62

Crockett gets my vote. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 25 #67

Well... Sparkly Jun 25 #68

Cuomo Resigned. TheProle Jun 25 #74

If the democratic base wanted a fighter, they would have stuck up for Al Franken DFW Jun 25 #80

Did Franken ever have his day in court? sindri Jun 26 #83

What crime was Franken accused of? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #92

Democrats will stand up and defend Cumo to the death . Dems threw Autumn Jun 26 #89

Huge difference. Cuomo had power (auth to fire) the 11 he harassed Bluetus Jun 26 #94

Both of them were effective Democrats MorbidButterflyTat Jun 26 #104

The Sixth and Seventh Party Systems. Torchlight Jun 26 #106