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Mossfern

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71. I don't support Netanyahu, but I "grok" what he is saying

Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:08 PM

Jun 22

I remember when I had my third child that I was occasionally distressed because if I had to grab my children and run, I only had two hands. Taking tours in England and Europe, the guides would show us "where they killed the Jews"- we had our children with us on some of those tours. Even the US refused to take in Jewish refugees during WWII - sending many to their doom.

Israel for me, just like the person you know, is the home base "safety" place for Jewish people. I think the persecution has been for so long and so intense that it has become part of our DNA.

I hate Bibi because he put our "homeland" at risk.
He puts Jews around the world at risk. I see that more and more.

Rabin was my guy - but you know what happened to him....fucking right wing ultra religious nut job.

BTW, my homeland is the US, not Israel - but I always thought that if things got rough that there was a place where I could take refuge.

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Democrats who support Netanyahu are a great mystery to me. [View all] redgreenandblue Jun 22 OP

I just saw a little bit of his speech dripping with obsequiousness towards Trump. Disgusting. Walleye Jun 22 #1

He knows how to manipulate Trump MadameButterfly Jun 22 #28

I'm starting to believe that Bibi is as devoid of morality as Trump is Walleye Jun 22 #51

You think? The Blue Flower Jun 22 #52

Well, I knew it for sure when I heard how close he was with Jared Kushner Walleye Jun 22 #55

And full of self-serving lies. Don't forget that. N/T. AloeVera Jun 22 #59

Pretty much the formula for malignant narcissist MadameButterfly Jun 22 #62

We keep electing and choosing as leaders the pathological amongst us. AloeVera Jun 22 #68

I've noticed these sociopaths and psychopaths reside mainly in the Republican Party MadameButterfly Jun 22 #70

Seems everyone Rebl2 Jun 22 #60

Yes, anyone smart enough to be in power, but critically, there's a base of ignorant voters MadameButterfly Jun 22 #63

Yes, clearly he was speaking to one person in particular PatSeg Jun 22 #50

trmp & netanyahu should both be in prison. Instead they are roiling the world. spanone Jun 22 #66

There's no justice Walleye Jun 22 #67

And they love to swarm anyone who dares to disagree with Israel's current regime. Scrivener7 Jun 22 #2

Ironically, the real anti-semites support Trump MadameButterfly Jun 22 #27

Al Franken included those thoughts in his "Lying Liars" book he published during the GWB years wolfie001 Jun 22 #49

Just talked to a friend in Israel who used to hate BiBi AllyCat Jun 22 #3

The same attitude seems to apply to all Palestinians. Lonestarblue Jun 22 #7

Pretty sure Allycat's friend was referring to Iran. emulatorloo Jun 22 #14

Yes. AllyCat Jun 22 #25

unfortunately, not enough. same as here msfiddlestix Jun 22 #37

Interestingly, she was opposed to Bibi's handling of Palestine. AllyCat Jun 22 #26

Places they lived for hundreds of years thousands of years ago JT45242 Jun 22 #40

they live in eternal fear of Iran because of Bibi's constant fear mongering LymphocyteLover Jun 22 #11

Maybe they live in fear because a soon to be nuclear power chants "death to Israel" daily. CincyDem Jun 22 #31

Soon to be nuclear power? Can you provide a source other than the US and Israeli administrations? Magoo48 Jun 22 #38

Well, Israel hasn't done a hell of a lot in recent years to dispel the myths behind that chant. paleotn Jun 22 #44

The hate clearly goes both ways LymphocyteLover Jun 22 #65

No need for confusion FBaggins Jun 22 #4

Certainly, but have their actions made that war with far worse opponents even worse? paleotn Jun 22 #46

Perhaps it's not the man, but rather his policies. Intractable Jun 22 #5

It's Israel, the country, not necessarily whichever party happens to be governing, Deminpenn Jun 22 #6

Gaza enid602 Jun 22 #9

bingo cadoman Jun 22 #47

This is what I would have posted. murielm99 Jun 22 #57

I think... Mike Nelson Jun 22 #8

Palestinians don't qualify as persecuted? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #10

I think they do... Mike Nelson Jun 22 #13

Sounds like you do SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #15

This is true for me too. I have always automatically given them the benefit of the doubt. Scrivener7 Jun 22 #12

I don't know of any Dems besides Fetterman who give Netanyahu unqualified support. emulatorloo Jun 22 #16

Rec'd Mossfern Jun 22 #17

I hear ya... Fetterman is such a disappointment. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 22 #32

I personally know serious leftist in my life who give unwavering, full throated support to Bibi;s murderous policies. msfiddlestix Jun 22 #41

I mean Democrats mainly in the sense of voters. redgreenandblue Jun 22 #34

The unqualified support is to Israel. By both parties. AloeVera Jun 22 #35

AIPAC dems. Balatro Jun 22 #18

Bingo!!!!!... Butterflylady Jun 22 #21

This Liberal does not think of joshdawg Jun 22 #19

One word.......AIPAC...... Butterflylady Jun 22 #20

EXACTLY HarryM Jun 22 #45

By name, who are these Democrats ? Tetrachloride Jun 22 #22

Crickets. sheshe2 Jun 22 #58

I answered above. redgreenandblue Jun 24 #72

Voters not politicians. redgreenandblue Jun 24 #73

Netenyahoo is an evil international terrorist aeromanKC Jun 22 #23

I think I can explain one democratic Jew whom I know no_hypocrisy Jun 22 #24

I think it's very justified by history and the slaughter of 6 million people. Also, Netanyahu is a bum. Joinfortmill Jun 22 #36

I don't support Netanyahu, but I "grok" what he is saying Mossfern Jun 22 #71

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me too. barbtries Jun 22 #30

Netanyahu is crook, like Trump is a crook. Joinfortmill Jun 22 #33

Because those folks.... ShadesOfBlue Jun 22 #42

until an Islamic version of AIPAC emerges it's what makes sense cadoman Jun 22 #48

Ah the 'dual loyalty' trope. One of the oldest antisemitic canards out there. emulatorloo Jun 22 #61

Nothing new under the sun. Some of this stuff could be lifted straight out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. tritsofme Jun 22 #64

I am definitely against antisemitism but TexLaProgressive Jun 22 #43

Democrats who support Iran over Israel are a mystery to me hueymahl Jun 22 #53

Just a smoother Donald Trump Wisky64 Jun 22 #54

I fail to see how Israel is a US ally Johnny2X2X Jun 22 #56

+1 dalton99a Jun 22 #69