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Cirsium

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51. The Bank Secrecy Act
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:09 PM
Apr 4

As a general rule, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) requires that Form 8300 be filed if a business receives more than $10,000 in cash from an individual buyer through a single transaction or two or more related transactions. Form 8300 is required if any part of the transaction occurred within the United States or its territories. This IRS rule applies to everyone: individuals, companies, corporations, partnerships, associations, trusts, and estates all must file Form 8300 by the 15th day after the transaction takes place.

On the bank’s side, banks and financial institutions are required to complete a Currency Transaction Report (CTR) for cash transactions that exceed $10,000 in a single day. CTRs are required for that $10,000 amount even if the amount is exceeded by multiple transactions. A CTR will include the name of the individual completing the transaction, as well as their bank account number, address, and social security number. There are also penalties for financial institutions that fail to file a Currency Transaction Report when required.

Additionally, when a transaction seems suspicious—meaning it could point to money laundering or the client appears to be trying to avoid BSA reporting—the financial institution is required to file a suspicious activity report (SAR). An SAR reports the suspicious activity to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN). Suspicious Activity Reports are filed by banks confidentially, and there are penalties for banks who disclose to a client that they have filed an SAR.

https://www.moderntreasury.com/learn/bank-secrecy-act

The Bank Secrecy Act

The BSA was originally passed by the U.S. Congress in 1970 and signed by President Richard Nixon into law on October 26, 1970. Shortly after passage, several groups attempted to have the courts rule the law unconstitutional, claiming it violated both Fourth Amendment rights against unwarranted search and seizure, and Fifth Amendment rights of due process. Several cases were combined before the Supreme Court in California Bankers Assn. v. Shultz, 416 U.S. 21 (1974), which ruled that the Act did not violate the Constitution. Until the 1980s, there was a "prolonged period of inaction", but financial institutions eventually complied with the BSA's reporting requirements.

The statute has been amended several times, including provisions in Title III of the USA PATRIOT Act, which amended the BSA to require financial institutions to establish anti-money-laundering programs by establishing internal policies, procedures, and controls, designating compliance officers, providing ongoing employee training, and testing their programs through independent audits. There was an attempt to include another amendment in 2018, called the Illicit Arts and Antiquities Trafficking Prevention Act (IAATP). As the name implies, its aim was to restrict illegal trafficking of art in the United States which has the highest rates of money laundering in the world. It was not passed in the United States House of Representatives. This was because the aim of the IAATP did not directly correspond with the aim of the BSA which, according to Congressman Luke Messer, sponsor of the bill, is to "counteract terrorist financing and crack down on terrorist organizations like ISIS".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act

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i thought new car prices were gonna plunge thanks to tariffs....lol nt msongs Apr 3 #1
Nope and the used ones BlueKota Apr 3 #11
Depends on who you're listening to. dchill Apr 3 #12
And gas was going to be $1/gallon, and... COL Mustard Apr 3 #26
First I ever heard of give a car dealer a SS number. Historic NY Apr 3 #2
Yes. underpants Apr 3 #5
I will not be financing so they will never get mine at a car dealer 😁 Meowmee Apr 3 #7
As long as you... Chemical Bill Apr 3 #25
Yes probably but they don't have my bank accounts because Meowmee Apr 3 #44
My friend mailed a paper check to the IRS last week central scrutinizer Apr 4 #48
Yes me too Meowmee Apr 4 #50
We opened a separate account for direct deposits. n/t Chemical Bill Apr 4 #53
That is what we will do and not attached to the other accounts. Meowmee Apr 4 #54
I think you also have to give it when checks BlueKota Apr 3 #8
You are correct dflprincess Apr 3 #16
They also need it for certain cash or cash and check transactions. For IRS reporting Hassin Bin Sober Apr 4 #52
They required mine when I paid cash for a car iemanja Apr 3 #34
I would have told him no on the SS. Take it or leave it. Bengus81 Apr 3 #3
I agree. It's ridiculous. About a month ago, I went to my bank... Mark.b2 Apr 3 #10
Heh, over $10k means exactly $10k is under the limit. eggplant Apr 3 #18
Dang! I could have gotten one more dollar. Mark.b2 Apr 3 #20
Not sure, but DENVERPOPS Apr 3 #31
They are definitely supposed to report people who try to skirt the rules. eggplant Apr 3 #32
Drug dealers Magilla Apr 3 #38
As I understand it, the $10k limit for withdrawl was a bank policy to protect... Mark.b2 Apr 3 #36
The Bank Secrecy Act Cirsium Apr 4 #51
Years ago Magilla Apr 3 #37
Still probably was reported to the IRS even though it was $9,999 MichMan Apr 3 #29
I was just an old man wanting to buy a new tractor... Mark.b2 Apr 3 #39
You showed her ! MichMan Apr 3 #41
Good to know. Thanks! Mark.b2 Apr 3 #42
What's funny is that we live in a rural area, so people buying tractors happens regularly. MichMan Apr 3 #43
So what does the bank do if they say a celebrity needs money, refuse to give them their own money? Meowmee Apr 4 #45
They counsel them that they are being scammed, but can't ultimately refuse them MichMan Apr 4 #46
That's been the law for ages. iemanja Apr 3 #35
Know Your Customer laws radius777 Apr 4 #47
I've never had any issues with my credit union central scrutinizer Apr 4 #49
It's permeating underpants Apr 3 #4
Definitely BlueKota Apr 3 #15
Yep, wish I had bought my car in September before the election or even January before Meowmee Apr 3 #6
It just sucks that we are all going to pay because BlueKota Apr 3 #14
Really glad your sis got in under the wire. Funny about the salesman & his coffee! Hekate Apr 3 #9
Thank you. She's been really nervous about it. BlueKota Apr 3 #13
Thine GM should be an EV. the Equinox / EUV wow. swampthingdc Apr 3 #17
Welcome to DU ... aggiesal Apr 3 #23
It used to say NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION on the Emile Apr 3 #19
I'm not giving my social security number to buy a car. That is all n/t aggiesal Apr 3 #21
Chevy Blazer is made in Mexico and China of Chinese parts IronLionZion Apr 3 #22
The Traverse was what she just traded in. BlueKota Apr 3 #33
Gonna be a least a decade before I look at cars. roamer65 Apr 3 #24
Got my Chevy Trax DownriverDem Apr 3 #27
If there were tariffs coming, it would have been made in South Korea MichMan Apr 3 #30
That's reality folks. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 3 #28
The only people who need your SSN is your work and the IRS. Mosby Apr 3 #40
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