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Jim Lane

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155. I'm confused about only one thing: the basis for your confusion.

Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:21 PM

Aug 2018

A former Bernie Sanders organizer won a primary against an establishment incumbent.

What the hell did you expect to see on DU? Unequivocal support for the Bernie Sanders associate, just because she's now the Democratic nominee? HAHAHAHAHA. You poor naive innocent child.

BTW, here's a thought experiment for you: Suppose that, with Ocasio-Cortez receiving requests for help from Democratic candidates across the country, she had instead rejected them all and stayed solely within her district. In this scenario, she has sudden media prominence but chooses not to use it to help anyone else.

What would be the reaction of some of the people who are now criticizing her for leaving her district? Would they be criticizing her for "selfishly" not leaving her district?

We can never know for sure, but I have my dark suspicions.

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I'm confused about the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez bashing [View all] Equinox Moon Aug 2018 OP

I share your confusion caraher Aug 2018 #1

Some people think they are above the rules vlyons Aug 2018 #43

Trolls are crawling out from under the bridges now, spouting mythology. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #126

comment and criticize are not automatically bashing nt msongs Aug 2018 #2

Why even go there? We are fighting for our democracy. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #4

Well, she's not the *right kind* of Democrat for some people around here. nt scarletwoman Aug 2018 #3

Dingdingding Glamrock Aug 2018 #7

Say more Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #12

Here's one thread: Glamrock Aug 2018 #16

Thanks for the links Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #21

True Glamrock Aug 2018 #22

Just the whiff of "sexual" and "abuse" will turn voters off. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #25

But IOKIYAR Beartracks Aug 2018 #28

Do people really know what this stands for? "IOKIYAR" Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #29

But that's why I spelled it out in the body of my post. Beartracks Aug 2018 #32

Oh, I see it now. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #33

We need a Decoder Ring smilie. Beartracks Aug 2018 #35

Thank you! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #42

Love how Sharice Davids was supported here. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #39

How did she get dragged into this. Glamrock Aug 2018 #40

Yes, he can "drag" the "Muslim Dem" into Cha Aug 2018 #41

The joy (maybe) of being gone for as bit rpannier Aug 2018 #45

No shit, but dont you dare bring it up, it could ruin an otherwise complete batch Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #134

We are a big tent. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #8

Isn't that what she also says?? Not all Democrats are the same. R B Garr Aug 2018 #9

That's hardly an earthshaking statement. scarletwoman Aug 2018 #30

Ah, I must have missed the part where her ideas R B Garr Aug 2018 #36

I will criticize her for that Madam Mossfern Aug 2018 #78

She should, she should ..... - god I hate that phrase womanofthehills Aug 2018 #124

This is about the general election Madam Mossfern Aug 2018 #141

There have been annoying ones by others rpannier Aug 2018 #44

That about covers it Bettie Aug 2018 #77

word. KG Aug 2018 #123

! Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #149

Too often here it just goes back to the 2016 primary Bradshaw3 Aug 2018 #5

You hit it right on the head Bradshaw Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #138

Thanks. That last line is what we all need Bradshaw3 Aug 2018 #140

Repugnantscum rat fucking. Onyrleft Aug 2018 #6

All you have are Ugly Insults. Cha Aug 2018 #15

Speaking of "hogwash".. your post Cha Aug 2018 #49

Whoa...Cha Taking No Prisioners Me. Aug 2018 #153

.. Cha Aug 2018 #157

... Me. Aug 2018 #159

... betsuni Aug 2018 #55

lol Cha Aug 2018 #150

'Rat fucking'? kstewart33 Aug 2018 #81

Now you're getting it, THAT post is ..well I am not allowed to say, but you know Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #136

cool story bro ! stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #94

Isn't it just the coolest? Cha Aug 2018 #151

Hi Cha I hope all is well with you . stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #154

Mahalo, stonecutter! Cha Aug 2018 #158

There is criticism and there is bashing. All I've seen is criticism. I've criticized her... George II Aug 2018 #100

Her opinions and that of Sanders with whom she travels the county question everything Aug 2018 #10

The question is, this is DU and we support Democrats Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #14

But you ask why so many here question her opinions question everything Aug 2018 #19

Fair enough. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #27

Oh, so if the GOP is using her to bias voters against KPN Aug 2018 #34

First, Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters have decades of legislative experience.... George II Aug 2018 #121

That's a pretty broad statement. It doesnt KPN Aug 2018 #130

In response to a respectful answer to a simple question from Jake Tapper: George II Aug 2018 #135

I dunno. I think given Bernie's performance in those States, she and perhaps you are KPN Aug 2018 #144

I'm confused why she bashes her own party nini Aug 2018 #11

Yes, it's very confusing. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #13

You are not being helpful Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #17

But she doesnt have to? nini Aug 2018 #18

Email, tweet or call her with your comments. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #20

Exactly. Cha Aug 2018 #23

Lots of Democrats talk about how to improve the party oberliner Aug 2018 #57

hear! hear!!! Adrahil Aug 2018 #118

I'm not. To openly discuss why is dangerous to do, however. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #137

I've seen nothing here that indicates radical noodle Aug 2018 #24

Hasn't quite reached Gabbard and Gillibrand levels oberliner Aug 2018 #58

Who goes out if there way create threads bashing Gillibrand ? CentralMass Aug 2018 #82

+1 Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #125

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #26

Interesting. I hope the electorate is more enlightened than 12 years ago. Beartracks Aug 2018 #31

Is this for real? Nominated too many females? oberliner Aug 2018 #59

I second that. PatrickforO Aug 2018 #37

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #38

Apparently it's ok to bash some Democrats Lunabell Aug 2018 #46

Tell that to Bernie dansolo Aug 2018 #56

I was talking about Democrats. Lunabell Aug 2018 #93

Kirsten Gillibrand oberliner Aug 2018 #60

You don't see any adhoc attacks on her or any other of the insider candidates here. CentralMass Aug 2018 #76

... betsuni Aug 2018 #79

You don't see any adhoc attacks on Gillibrand? oberliner Aug 2018 #80

Perhaps I stated that wrong. People aren't posting negative stories here about these insiders. CentralMass Aug 2018 #86

She is criticized for her her actions over Franken, that's all. Autumn Aug 2018 #107

... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #109

Cortez criticized Gilibrand too. She wasn't piled upon. George II Aug 2018 #116

There have been regular negative Cortez posts here. CentralMass Aug 2018 #131

Her first election for her first office. Cut her some slack. Remember your own early career moves. Midnight Writer Aug 2018 #47

Rookie indeed. She's neglecting her own campaign. I won't be surprised if she loses. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #91

Everyone knows who she is now - most people have never heard of Pappas womanofthehills Aug 2018 #129

Yes this is Democratic Candidate bashing. Why is it tolerated now? UCmeNdc Aug 2018 #48

Others have put it better but there is a concern that her shooting from the lip is giving ammo to OnDoutside Aug 2018 #50

Abolishing ICE was literally one of the planks of her primary campaign oberliner Aug 2018 #64

Because it's not going to happen, and something that is not going happen is being used to beat OnDoutside Aug 2018 #98

People used to say that about gay marriage oberliner Aug 2018 #101

All before November ? Wow. OnDoutside Aug 2018 #113

Ocasio-Cortez ran and won on this issue oberliner Aug 2018 #114

And Republicans are already hitting the Democratic Party on it, using her words. Not that she will OnDoutside Aug 2018 #115

Republicans will always find some crap to hit Democrats on oberliner Aug 2018 #117

Democratic Socialist values perhaps, not the Democratic Party, but they get tarred with the same OnDoutside Aug 2018 #120

The bashing is SkyDancer Aug 2018 #51

I'm even more confused about AOC running from one end of the country to the other, bashing.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #52

This. Squinch Aug 2018 #53

Except that was the whole point of her Democratic primary candidacy in the first place oberliner Aug 2018 #62

Edited. Nevermind. Not helping your ceaseless efforts to divide. Squinch Aug 2018 #66

The logic of criticizing someone who beat an incumbent Democrat in a primary for helping others oberliner Aug 2018 #70

+1000 stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #95

"bashing.... good incumbents." ----- Yes. This. Exactly. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #54

She ran against a good incumbent and defeated him in the primary oberliner Aug 2018 #63

What's difficult to believe is that you missed the part R B Garr Aug 2018 #132

Crowley is not running oberliner Aug 2018 #143

The Bronx is not like Kansas. nt R B Garr Aug 2018 #145

She challenged a long-standing Democratic Party incumbent in a primary and won oberliner Aug 2018 #61

This is catnip to you, isn't it? Squinch Aug 2018 #67

I admire her greatly oberliner Aug 2018 #68

Bla bla bla, divide, divide. Squinch Aug 2018 #69

She's a Democrat. She's great. I admire her. I support her. oberliner Aug 2018 #71

I'll grant you this: you have been very successful at your objective. Squinch Aug 2018 #72

To add to this.... MuseRider Aug 2018 #108

Yes, and I also remember Bernie campaigning for Hillary in the general oberliner Aug 2018 #111

Be careful Oberliner. You're not allowed to point out good things Bernie has done supporting Dems Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #139

Too bad she fucked up on Lacy Clay RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #133

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #65

The Hillary bashing was confusing too treestar Aug 2018 #73

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #87

I have no problem with strong democrats running for office. avebury Aug 2018 #74

Some of the people now attacking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez used to attack Hillary Kaleva Aug 2018 #75

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #84

What would you call a post that calls a Democrat candidate "unhinged"? Kaleva Aug 2018 #104

I don't get that sense. I would say it is just the opposite. CentralMass Aug 2018 #90

Read the archived threads from early 2008. Kaleva Aug 2018 #102

Democrats and the Democratic Party are bashed here on a daily basis mcar Aug 2018 #83

Amusing and sad... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #88

We should be focused on defeating the GOP mcar Aug 2018 #92

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #96

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #89

Yeah, the double standard is Glaring.. Glad Cha Aug 2018 #148

To do list for your Ignore list. nt Snotcicles Aug 2018 #85

Not seeing what is happening, I don't believe is helpful. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #112

Perhaps it's because within days of the June Primary.... George II Aug 2018 #97

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #99

The thread you are speaking of... nycbos Aug 2018 #103

+1 betsuni Aug 2018 #105

Except that OP goes way beyond fact-checking berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #106

I don't see her as the big deal some do, and certainly not worth the energy of posting about nonstop DFW Aug 2018 #110

Let's see what she does in Congress. Adrahil Aug 2018 #119

I was souring on her, but I caught her on Chris Cuomo's show ecstatic Aug 2018 #122

She's friends with Bernie, isn't she? elleng Aug 2018 #127

she is a democrat who won primary. AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #128

I'm just gonna say, "I'm not" and leave it at that. shanny Aug 2018 #142

Lots of popular Democrats get bashed here. Saboburns Aug 2018 #146

I agree with you. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #147

Some people think she is too "uppity"... aikoaiko Aug 2018 #152

I'm confused about only one thing: the basis for your confusion. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #155

At this point if they are a general election candidate, criticism should be completely off-limits. Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #156

I'm confused by the fact that ANY fallout87 Aug 2018 #160