What can we do to win back the male voter?

[somsai]

The good news is that there are a lot more women voters 54% to 46% men. The bad news is that how men and women vote has widened to a 13 point gap, in 2020 it was only an 8 point gap. The votes of both men and women have shifted rightwards in all demographics except white women, and with white women we've made gains so small as to register as 0. This according to the recently released Catalist numbers as reported in the liberal patriot.

https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/do-democrats-know-how-to-win-back

One of the top quandaries for the Democratic Party following the 2024 election is how to bounce back with male voters. Some of the largest rightward shifts last year came from men—specifically, young and minority men. New data from the Democratic firm Catalist showed that while the party’s vote share among men overall fell by five points compared to 2020, the erosion of support was larger among Asian (six points), black (eight points), and Hispanic (twelve points) men.

This followed more than a decade of sustained rightward movement among all three non-white groups of male voters.

All this is not a surprise. Anyone who has watched the losses year over year could see this coming. This election we lost Hispanic men. In 2012 we had Asian men by 40 points, this year we had them by 10 points. Black men shifted 34 points. Small demographics I understand, HIspanic men are only 4% of voters, Black men are another 4%, Asians 2%, but we have lost ground with women also, though not as pronounced. The decrease is steady, every single year less.

Time to make a bigger tent. I disagree with some on issues, and I don't like every candidate, but if they vote Democratic, we can pass legislation to my liking.

[Scrivener7]

1. Run a white, middle-aged, protestant, straight man. I don't like it, but we need to face

the fact that a lot of the sexism and bigotry are coming from inside the house.

There's no need for this hand wringing over policies, though a populist platform would be nice. But it wouldn't bring back the Biden voters who refused to vote for Harris.

A white, middle-aged, protestant, straight man would do that.

[Haggard Celine]

4. I agree.

I'm already thinking about Tim Walz. He's one that checks all the boxes. Don't forget that he's a former coach as well. That'll be good enough for some.

[somsai]

7. The percent of white male vote hasn't shifted as dramatically

7 points down this time, and only 5 points since Obama, very little compared to Black men 16 points this time and 34 points since Obama. Many say that race is no longer a determinant as much as class.

I think my Australian Shepherd could beat Trump. I also think Harris did a lot better than many of our white male candidates would have done. Working class Hispanics are 7% of the voting population, same with the Black working class. Small but steady shifts by minorities over a long period of time are disconcerting .

[Scrivener7]

8. Doesn't matter. A white, male, protestant, middle-aged, straight man will bring them back.

[CTyankee]

14. Chris Murphy, our Dem Senator from CT, fits the bill!

He's a WASP, but not a Yalie! I think he'd be great.

[Scrivener7]

18. I totally agree

[CTyankee]

19. IMO, he is handsome/nice as opposed to what we have now. But that is not the question.

The question is Can he Win? Up against a photo of, say, Vance, Murphy is a nice poster contrast. It becomes "nice white guy" compared to "kinda yucky white guy." The repukes will have to go with: "who's the meanest SOB to deal with the bad guys," as defined by race mostly.

I am in a kind of despair as I write this post...

[markodochartaigh]

2. I think that US culture values and promotes

toxic masculinity instead of nurturing masculinity. Nurturing masculinity may need a society in which men who want to nurture their family have a reasonable expectation to succeed. It may be very difficult to promote the ideal of the family man in a culture which is already cut-throat and rapidly imploding.

Maybe Democratic leadership could develop a zeitgeist opposed to the Republican rugged individual, winner take all zeitgeist. Show that Democratic presidents have presided over far more job creation. Show that Democratic states help men to take care of their families.

[somsai]

13. I think you're on to something there

Studies show that a father in the house leads to much better outcomes for kids. A big part of being a man is providing for your family. Men will take jobs that cause early death if it means a secure life for their family. Think coal mines, drill rigs, logging, fishing, etc. Since covid job growth for the native born has been flat according to the St Louis Fed. Jobs don't pay enough to support a family.

I just read on Next Door that we've a new business opening up in town that should bring 100 jobs. Fast food. If the people working there worked 40 hours every week they'd make between $27K and $52K. Of course in fast food they cut your hours so you aren't full time, so it really pays $20K or best case $40K. None of those jobs can support a family. Can't buy a house, can't pay the doctor, not middle class at all.

The mine in the Iron Range in MN that just had a lay off paid $100K with overtime.

We've seen some drastic shocks to our economy of late. Huge tariffs, big layoffs in government. Call me a socialist but I think it's time to triple the min wage, not gradually but incrementally a dollar every two weeks. I used to have a payroll, I signed the front of the check. With computers it's extremely easy to change the numbers.

[Raven123]

3. Show them a different boogie man, perhaps

The GOP has succeeded in branding so many people as boogie men that male voters have their pick. Think women, immigrants, POC, LGBT etc..

Come up with a common boogie man that many can easily understand and harp on it relentlessly. Obviously, I think that is what Bernie Sanders has done so well - the large corporations.

Dems might need to make the issue more granular to specific communities to show how they have been affected. For example, big agriculture has decimated family farms. Take the message to those areas and hammer it home.

Just my 2 cents.

[Gum Logger]

16. Dems have been accused of lacking marking moxie.

The Harris Campaign spent a billion and a half dollars. I am waiting for the audit to revel the effectiveness of that spending

[Raven123]

17. I struggled to understand the campaign

I figured the managers knew something I didn’t. Not Harris’ fault. She had to ramp up quickly and tapped into Obama’s campaign manager with the legitimate argument that his experience and success would benefit her. The similarities between Obama’s campaign and Harris’ campaign seemed obvious to me, but political climate is drastically different.

[CTyankee]

21. We shudda known, but we (or really I shudda) the moment Biden had his "moment" in the debate where he went off track.

I was stunned. I couldn't believe it. I still don't know how this could have happened.

[marble falls]

5. Stop treating young black men as all gangsters. Stop shooting them in the streets. Simple little things.

[chouchou]

6. With the Media that seems to paste a dark reality, whenever the Democrats are in front and center....

..plus Fox News outright throws a tractor-trailer crammed full of bullshit and lies, I doubt much is going to change.
Face it. Our country is full of citizens that usually don't know What-the-hell is going on..most of the time.
Anybody that wants to argue, just say: :Who' is the President and who controls the House and the Senate?

The filthy rich are in control.

[Ponietz]

9. How about male and female voters?

90 million Americans sat on their asses.

[somsai]

11. There's a lot of polling showing non voters favored Trump

more than voters, and that they would have boosted Trump's percent to over 5. I don't want to even think if it might have caused some congressional seats to go south. We do pretty well in low turnout elections, midterms and special elections. Women, white, and wealthier, are all demographics that vote more reliably.

[Ponietz]

12. Cites please

Split 50-50 — that’s 45 million Democratic votes that stayed home

[somsai]

15. https://www.natesilver.net/p/turnout-didnt-cost-kamala-harris

What we used to do, to tip the balance, is.....

We have a long history of mail in, even Republicans agitated when some looked to take it away, so we get a ton of mail ins. As a mail in is received that voter is listed as having sent a valid ballot. Ballots aren't opened and counted until election day, but,,, by knowing the registration and identity of people who did mail them in, we'd go knock on the doors of Democrats who hadn't yet voted. In my precinct we contacted every single Democratic voter, some multiple times.

Another problem is vote switchers. Reluctant voters switch more than others. Also more and more people are registering Independent to avoid the polarization.

[CTyankee]

20. Well, I produced one...

He saw me radicalized by the Vietnam War starting when he was 3 years old. He says he remembers me going on marches and I had a few posters up on the walls. He's not a radical but he is a prosecutor with a good sense of what is right. And my two daughters were similarly raised and married two liberal guys.