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Related: About this forumVance: Culture is attacking masculinity, creating "androgynous idiots"
Masculine men don't have to go around telling everyone they're manly or whining about it so much.
Real geniuses don't have to tell everyone they are intelligent.
Authenticity means you don't feel the need to prove anything. These people are so comically insecure.

Basso8vb
(858 posts)Ocelot II
(124,297 posts)Trueblue Texan
(3,285 posts)If it means learning or changing in any way, it's a threat to their fragile masculinity.
IronLionZion
(48,534 posts)kerouac2
(1,156 posts)you fill in the blank.
sop
(13,773 posts)"In the last 50 years, research has identified a trend of declining testosterone in men and a rise in related health conditions, including reduced semen quality in men and genital malformations in newborn boys....Animal and cellular studies have found that some phthalates* block the effects of testosterone on the bodys organs and tissues...Researchers set out to examine whether these chemicals...had a similar effect in humans."
*Phthalates are chemicals used to make plastics, cosmetics, food packaging, and other products.
https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2014/reduced-testosterone-tied-to-endocrine-disrupting-chemical-exposure
The federal agency that regulates environmental chemicals is the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Trump and Musk have already fired hundreds of EPA workers. If Vance is so concerned about declining toxic masculinity in Bros, he should do something to reduce all the toxic chemicals in the environment.
sinkingfeeling
(55,068 posts)patphil
(7,691 posts)Really? How is that so?
Being a 78 year old man, who grew up in the era of strong male depictions all across society, I think Vance is completely, totally, and utterly full of shit, right up to his eyeballs.
It's the "good old days" of a culture where males dominated everything that Vance longs for. This isn't about culture producing male androgynous idiots, it's about men discovering that women make up half of the human species, and acknowledging/accepting that women have a place in culture beyond the idea of "barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen".
For Vance, that's like being castrated; having their male power diminished. But any strong, vibrant culture recognizes the contributions of women to that culture. Essentially Vance is defining himself as a male chauvinist; believing in the superiority of men over women.
Any retreat from that causes the pathetic reaction that the video clip above shows.
multigraincracker
(35,457 posts)RVN VET71
(2,868 posts)Since Musk was given all presidential authority by the cognitively declining Trump, he's got his choice of American Nazis to choose from as his delegated VP. Vance doesn't fit Musk's requirements, married as he is to an Indian woman and given to over-the-top blathering about a kind of masculinity he appears to lack but lust after.
To see Vance without his beard is to see a chubby guy who was kicked around, verbally and physically, in school (Come to think of it, both he and Tucker C. have a tendency to look like chubby little sissy men. Tucker, evidently, works at keeping the chubby rich-kid fat off -- but check out some of his pre-Fox photos. Vance, like Hitler before him, chose facial hair as a way to hide his weak and notably un-Aryan visage. He chose the beard because it hides the Pillsbury Dough Boy double-chinning he suffers from.) (I have no idea why Schickelgruber decided on that comic moustache. Maybe a closet Charlie Chaplin fan?)
IronLionZion
(48,534 posts)that apparently turned him into an androgenous useless idiot.