Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumAnyone else bothered by this "Apostles' Creed" brew ha ha?
Yes, Trump is a hypocrite. Yes, his religious followers are hypocrites and fools. Yes, he behaved like a spoiled child, dragged unwillingly to a family event.
I'm all for pointing these things out but when it morphs into criticizing him for standing silently while others prayed, I actually find myself, for the first time ever, starting to sympathize with the orange idiot and that turns my stomach.
I did see one rational comment:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142217302#post8

vlyons
(10,252 posts)He stood respectfully, while others recited their creed. What's wrong with that? How someone does, or does not, practice religion is certainly none of my business.
sinkingfeeling
(54,870 posts)greatest Christian ever.
mountain grammy
(27,650 posts)but we all know he's a fucking hypocrit just like his worshipers and should be called out.
I'm sorry. You can't eviserate women's rights in the name of JEEEEEEEZUZ and then not praise him.. No, I won't give him a pass.. he wasn't being respectful. He doesn't know the fucking words and can't read and every trump loving Christian should see that. I say, mock him relentlessly.
Mariana
(15,478 posts)Someone can be the best Christian ever and not participate in reciting the Apostle's Creed. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.
Cartoonist
(7,579 posts)I had Thanksgiving dinner with friends. One of the family elders spoke and read a Psalm. I sat and remained silent. I felt very uncomfortable. I didn't complain, but if anyone had given me any grief like they are giving Trump, then I would have.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)stonecutter357
(12,828 posts)Jokerman
(3,541 posts)Please elaborate.
Duppers
(28,313 posts)At most funerals.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)exboyfil
(18,189 posts)as a sword and shield against his political opponents. That subjects him to criticism.
My old Senior pastor was lifelong friends with Senator Paul Simon. When Simon was in Iowa as a Presidential candidate for the caucus he attended worship at our church.
The press made a political big deal about it. My pastor felt awful about it because he always wanted to separate the pulpit from politics. He did not want his friendship with Senator Simon to be construed as a political endorsement from the pulpit.
DavidDvorkin
(20,117 posts)RussBLib
(9,856 posts)but I probably would not go to such an event in the first place, and he's got all this support from evangelicals. I do wonder how the religious asses who think Trump is the second coming of Christ would explain his silence. No doubt it would be hypocritical as hell.
Mariana
(15,478 posts)disapprove of reciting things like the Apostle's Creed. The Apostle's Creed isn't in the Bible, and if it ain't in the Bible, it ain't right.
The noise about this on DU is ridiculous. Does anyone really expect Trump's Christian supporters to be upset by this, after they've excused all the things he did that were actually immoral?
RussBLib
(9,856 posts)so, yeah, it didn't bother me anyway.
It actually bothers me more to see all those political leaders mouthing those empty words. All of them under the supernatural spell. Shameful.
defacto7
(14,023 posts)they were all either hypocrites or delusional but all for very different reasons. Those who recited it for political reasons have their mode of hypocrisy and those who recited it out of belief are deluding themselves. But Trump not reciting it shows his lying hypocrisy toward his religious base, although I think the real reason he didn't recite it was probably because he couldn't read it.
On the other hand does anyone know if he's Jewish?