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sir pball

(4,990 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 10:17 AM Feb 8

The scientifically perfect way to boil an egg has just been discovered.

I'm not even kidding – the procedure was published as a full paper in friggin' Nature on Thursday.

Long story short, every prior method (hard boiling, soft boiling, sous vide) is imperfect; the yolk and white need two different temperatures to be cooked to perfection, so simply bringing the egg to a uniform temperature will never work properly. By alternating between water baths of two different temperatures for specific times, it's possible to cook the two different parts perfectly. You'll still need a circulator ("sous vide machine" ) to hold a bath at a steady 30˚C, but those are hardly uncommon these days.

For those of you who don't want to slog through a Serious Scientific Paper (really, there's thermodynamics and charts and and and, it is NOT an easy read), the procedure is actually really simple. The eggs get a cycle of a 100˚C, boiling, bath for 2 minutes, then a 30˚C bath for 2 minutes, repeated 8 times. Yes, you're gonna have to stand there for 32 minutes with a 2-minute timer, but a small cost for perfection!

Full paper, they were kind enough to publish it open-access: https://www.nature.com/articles/s44172-024-00334-w

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The scientifically perfect way to boil an egg has just been discovered. (Original Post) sir pball Feb 8 OP
Thank you! BlueGreenLady Feb 8 #1
Fu*k that Figarosmom Feb 8 #2
Can you do that without an egg? Turbineguy Feb 8 #3
Seriously,... littlemissmartypants Feb 8 #6
I guess you could, but it wouldn't work so well on meat sir pball Feb 9 #12
I found eggs yesterday Turbineguy Feb 9 #13
I like mine basted. Perfect on a slice of toast. I use my knuckle to test it. When the yolk is no longer cold, it's read multigraincracker Feb 8 #4
I'm an over-easy fan myself sir pball Feb 9 #11
My rare eggs will remain imperfect. sinkingfeeling Feb 8 #5
I'll just scramble the darn thing, TYVM.... lastlib Feb 8 #7
This post is outstanding! Thank you so much! littlemissmartypants Feb 8 #8
Very interesting procedure, Callalily Feb 8 #9
I mean, realistically I'm just gonna stick with my 11-minute boil sir pball Feb 9 #10
The scientific interest is a worthy thing, but the conclusion seems headed for an Ig Nobel Prize. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 9 #14
I don't disagree, but I'm not sure I've ever seen an Ig Nobel... sir pball Feb 9 #15
my only concern is peeling Kali Feb 10 #16

BlueGreenLady

(2,877 posts)
1. Thank you!
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 10:27 AM
Feb 8

I was in dire need of a new, time consuming distraction from the current political circus.

littlemissmartypants

(27,089 posts)
6. Seriously,...
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 11:48 AM
Feb 8

I can think of some people I'd like to boil. But mostly using oil. That's probably going to significantly influence the thermodynamics. 😉

sir pball

(4,990 posts)
12. I guess you could, but it wouldn't work so well on meat
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 09:07 AM
Feb 9

You want more of a steady, low(ish) temperature for that, 175-180˚F for at least a couple of hours. Lets the collagen (cartilage) break down into gelatin without denaturing the muscle fibers too much, so you get meat that just falls apart, but isn't completely dried out.

And yes, I get it

multigraincracker

(35,302 posts)
4. I like mine basted. Perfect on a slice of toast. I use my knuckle to test it. When the yolk is no longer cold, it's read
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 11:34 AM
Feb 8

ready

sir pball

(4,990 posts)
11. I'm an over-easy fan myself
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 09:03 AM
Feb 9

Let it fry until there's just a sheen of raw white on the top, and the yolk of course is still liquid, give it a flip, count to three and slide it onto the toast!

lastlib

(25,633 posts)
7. I'll just scramble the darn thing, TYVM....
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 11:53 AM
Feb 8

The only way to cook an egg is THOROUGHLY. ie, vulcanized.

littlemissmartypants

(27,089 posts)
8. This post is outstanding! Thank you so much!
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 11:54 AM
Feb 8

I love cooking and science. I bet NNadir would enjoy it as he's our resident scientist. My presupposition is thermodynamics is something he knows something about.

Thanks so much for sharing this.

❤️

sir pball

(4,990 posts)
10. I mean, realistically I'm just gonna stick with my 11-minute boil
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 09:01 AM
Feb 9

It is wildly labor-intensive, if as simple as can be (though I can see *** restaurants adopting this…labor is meaningless when you have an army of slave-wage externs) – but the formally-trained-scientist-turned-professional-chef in me absolutely squeals with delight at the time and effort these boffins put into figuring this out!

eppur_se_muova

(38,710 posts)
14. The scientific interest is a worthy thing, but the conclusion seems headed for an Ig Nobel Prize. nt
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 10:35 PM
Feb 9

sir pball

(4,990 posts)
15. I don't disagree, but I'm not sure I've ever seen an Ig Nobel...
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 11:16 PM
Feb 9

…that was published in Nature. I'm not sure why they took this paper, but as I'm sure you know their reputation is…not such that they would want to have an IgN on it.

Honestly, speaking as a fine dining chef and formerly-credentialed scientist, this isn't *entirely* useless research…I could easily see a three-Michelin-star restaurant adopting this technique.

Kali

(56,174 posts)
16. my only concern is peeling
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 04:42 PM
Feb 10

at one point I got obsessed with the color problem on the yolk-white interface but realized I only use them for deviled eggs anyway so that didn't matter.

my go to for easier/est peeling was aged eggs and cooling under water. worked most of the time, then a friend gave me a Japanese egg cooker. another appliance to find storage for.

decided to give it a try before getting rid of it...works GREAT. fresh eggs (like fresh from my chickens fresh) peel just fine. so I found a place to store it.

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