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SheltieLover

(70,088 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 02:08 PM Wednesday

I just learned of a new non-12-step program that friends tell me is fabulous

https://recoverydharma.org/

Based on meditation and the principles of Buddhism.

The 12-Step programs do not work for everyone, so here is an alternative for those of you who might fall into that group.

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I just learned of a new non-12-step program that friends tell me is fabulous (Original Post) SheltieLover Wednesday OP
Most therapists strive to adjust people to society. usonian Wednesday #1
Very true. Many people take exception to giving up power in 12-step progams SheltieLover Wednesday #2
There's one in my town! Thank you SL. I may check out a meeting. Clouds Passing Wednesday #3
Check it out, Clouds, & let us know what you think. SheltieLover Wednesday #4
I will. Clouds Passing Wednesday #8
A lot of people don't feel like they fit in 12-step programs. SheltieLover Wednesday #11
Here is a helpful meditation to relieve anxiety I use. multigraincracker Wednesday #5
Ty, MGC SheltieLover Wednesday #6
I loooove Meditative Mind. I do the chakra meditations, chants and solfeggios. Thanks for posting mgc! Clouds Passing Wednesday #7
I was walking around in the Hollywood hills in 1967 and I heard this coming from a house. multigraincracker Wednesday #9
A former roommate was a buddhist. She did the chant. I should have started then! Clouds Passing Wednesday #10
For some reason I always remembered the words. Much later I started saying them. multigraincracker Wednesday #12
They flow so beautifully Clouds Passing Wednesday #13
Life is strange. multigraincracker Wednesday #14
Me too with the Tao te Ching. Also tai chi as a form of moving meditation. Clouds Passing Thursday #16
30 years ago I took a class in tai chi. multigraincracker Thursday #17
Highly recommended Clouds Passing Thursday #18
Seniorplanet.org has free classes online daily, incl tai chi SheltieLover Friday #22
Thank you for the link. multigraincracker Wednesday #15
Yw! SheltieLover Friday #20
I think it's been around for a while. bif Friday #19
Yup. SheltieLover Friday #21

usonian

(18,410 posts)
1. Most therapists strive to adjust people to society.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 03:05 PM
Wednesday

But in many ways, society is deluded and tells us stories about ourselves that are manipulative, like "You've got to be rich or you're a nobody" or the common: "You're born a failure and can never find happiness" and so on.

These really are manipulative, and we largely accept them.

The Buddha addressed not just the symptoms of our problems, but the root of our problems, such as the fleeting nature of things, while we try to cling to them, and the stories we are taught, in which we are "stamped" as weak and doomed, when in fact the story he tells is one of inner light and infinite potential. (In the Lotus Sutra)

But on a simpler plane, if the world practiced just 4 of the 8 steps on the path, it would be a much richer and happy place.

From the free book there:

1. Wise Understanding
2. Wise Intention
3. Wise Speech
4. Wise Action

Wow. Imagine. 🪷

Wishing everyone success and happiness, because we are not so isolated as society says (for profit). We're all in this world together and can join hands to pull each other up, or not.

SheltieLover

(70,088 posts)
2. Very true. Many people take exception to giving up power in 12-step progams
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 03:16 PM
Wednesday

I love the dynamics of empowerment in this recovery progrsm & in Buddhism in General.

Very healthy stuff!

Tyvm for sharing!



SheltieLover

(70,088 posts)
4. Check it out, Clouds, & let us know what you think.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:00 PM
Wednesday

A friend attended one & said first 15 min is a mindfulness meditation, followed by a discussion of Buddhist principles &, presumably, how to apply them in everyday life.

SheltieLover

(70,088 posts)
11. A lot of people don't feel like they fit in 12-step programs.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:25 PM
Wednesday

They work for a lot of people & others not so much.

Whatever works for you!

I think you will like it.

multigraincracker

(35,862 posts)
5. Here is a helpful meditation to relieve anxiety I use.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:01 PM
Wednesday

I got clean in 1990, went to 3 meetings and never went back. I didn't have a higher power. Found out I was self medicating, and found a better way. I still have some anxiety and depression and have found this very helpful. Get comfortable, turn down the lights and relax to this Buddhist meditation.

Clouds Passing

(5,175 posts)
7. I loooove Meditative Mind. I do the chakra meditations, chants and solfeggios. Thanks for posting mgc!
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:11 PM
Wednesday

multigraincracker

(35,862 posts)
9. I was walking around in the Hollywood hills in 1967 and I heard this coming from a house.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:15 PM
Wednesday

Someone came out and asked if I'd like to come in and that's how I learned it.

multigraincracker

(35,862 posts)
14. Life is strange.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:02 PM
Wednesday

I’m more of a student of the Tao te Ching, but has a lot of interest Buddhism.
One time the Dali Lama was in town giving an interesting talk. During the question period a person commented that it was all so complicated and his Holiness said, it is very simple-Be Nice.

Clouds Passing

(5,175 posts)
16. Me too with the Tao te Ching. Also tai chi as a form of moving meditation.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:07 AM
Thursday

I become trancelike when I am in flow with the movements of myself and the group. We can all feel it when we’re in sync with each other. It’s very cool 😎

multigraincracker

(35,862 posts)
17. 30 years ago I took a class in tai chi.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 12:29 PM
Thursday

Did it for about a year or so. Have time now, may take it up again.

bif

(25,684 posts)
19. I think it's been around for a while.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 04:53 PM
Friday

I attend SMART recovery meetings, because I'm an agnostic and the whole God thing about AA really bugs me. Been doing them for 6 1/2 years. Whatever works, I always say.

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