Why Ukraine Is Actually Winning The War!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

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1. would qualify as a 'novel interpretation' ...

tickled to death if it somehow turned out to be right. But ....

[paleotn]

3. The Russians are running out of gas. Actually and figuratively.

Ukrainians "droned" a significant amount of petrol infrastructure in the last several days. Including a pipeline and refinery critical to Russian military supply. Hard to fight a war with limited gas supplies. Just ask Hitler.

It's a matter of who breaks first. Our former European allies are ensuring it's not the Ukrainians. They're certainly rich enough and have more than enough military industrial complex. And without all the ridiculous, chicken little caveats we've been putting on aid since day 1.

[NJCher]

5. On what grounds?

what sources have you been reading that makes you say this?

[stopdiggin]

6. actually the majority of reporting

Has Russia now making small but continual (if costly) advances on the ground - for a current picture of 'territory' and ebb and flow at that level. Recognizing that that is not the entire story - it is still difficult to find sources that see Ukraine as having greater reserves of resources (in terms of either equipment, manpower, or economic reserves) that would exceed (or outlast) those of their belligerent counterpart. Where do these resources come from (for either side?) on the 3rd year of this grueling and exhausting conflict? The manpower and troops? The U.S. seems ready to wash its hands ... Will the remainder of "the West" step forward .. ? Manpower .. troops .. ? For another 3, 4, 5 years?

Here's a link without paywall - - slightly dated but echoing what a large proportion of opinion on the conflict reads right at the moment. And as mentioned - Dear Donald certainly hasn't improved the picture in the near term ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2ldpnyewx1o

[NJCher]

7. where the resources come from

is NATO, and for Russia, North Korea. There have been many stories on what NATO is doing. I'm surprised you haven't seen them.

Also what about the territory going from 30 to 19 per cent? Doesn't sound like a loss to me.

Yeah, your link is way out of date.

[stopdiggin]

8. the situation on the ground (or in terms of resources) has NOT improved

in the ensuing interval. (as regards the date of the linked article)
And, as I pointed out in the prior post, is actually going south to some degree for the Ukraine. This is not only factual, in terms of gains made on the map - but also the majority in reporting and analysis presented currently. The 30% figure you site is even more ancient history. Outdated even by the time of the BBC article.

Going back to the beginning - I'd dearly love to see an outcome here that more suited my wishes and desires. (what I hold in my heart) But I'm just not finding a lot of voices out there that say it is (realistically) in the cards.

[NJCher]

9. did you not watch the video?

The 30 per cent figure was used in the video, so at you saying this person is lying?

[stopdiggin]

10. yes, I did watch the video

and I found the overall take therein to be an outlier - at odds with a whole lot of other analysis made in assessing a fairly grim picture.

The 30% figure refers to very early gains made by Russian in the initial stages of conflict/incursion. So - no I am not naming anyone else a liar. What I am stating is simply that it is (quite) old news. And rather misleading in relation to how the conflict is playing out in real time. (i.e. today)

[NJCher]

11. If it was very early

It might make a difference. I will attempt to duplicate your sources tomorrow if I can. I have a big project tomorrow, however.

But essentially what you’re saying is that this is a propaganda video. There is no need to lie since this issue has been settled by trump, insofar as financial support. So I don’t understand the motive for the video.

On edit: do you have a date for the “very early”?

[stopdiggin]

12. there are fairly good maps (with some timeline) in the article I linked

the initial push from Russia (w/ the 30% figure) was early (March 2022?)
Ukraine regained territory during that summer and fall ...
And there has been little real significant movement on either part since (about Nov 2022 ?)

[NJCher]

2. a few of the items he talked about...

(rough notes) Momentum on Ukrainian side. In much better position than it was in 2023. Three years ago, Russia held 30% of Ukraine territory and it is now 19%. Russia went all in on this war, suffering casualties of anywhere from 500,000 to 1 million troops, and had to mobilize and release prisoners to fight to make up for some of the losses. They had to get North Korean troops in, too, as well as financial aid from NK. Other countries have had to come to their aid: Belarus and Iran. The Russian economy is suffering from inflation. Ukraine has stabilized the front and the east.

There is a link for a fundraiser. It is both in the beginning and at the end of the video.

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4. Putin had trump pile on Zelensky in the white house

Bullying him toward surrender on false pretenses. What a way to live.