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littlemissmartypants

(27,089 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 12:26 PM Mar 14

Fiona Hill...how she believes Putin actually mocked Trump during their exchanges.

Fiona Hill, a former senior National Security Council official and expert on European and Russian affairs, has revealed new insights into Trump’s previous interactions with Vladimir Putin — and how she believes Putin actually mocked Trump during their exchanges. https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-aide-reveals-vladimir-putin-081633835.html

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Fiona Hill...how she believes Putin actually mocked Trump during their exchanges. (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Mar 14 OP
Hill certainly is an expert voice. FailureToCommunicate Mar 14 #1
I'd love to read some specific examples; I don't have an hour to listen JoseBalow Mar 14 #2
Three suggestions... littlemissmartypants Mar 14 #4
Is there a transcript? JoseBalow Mar 14 #6
Brothers Karamazov bmichaelh Mar 14 #3
Isn't... littlemissmartypants Mar 14 #5
Putin probably does not understand Karamazov bmichaelh Mar 14 #7
TY! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Mar 14 #8

JoseBalow

(7,123 posts)
2. I'd love to read some specific examples; I don't have an hour to listen
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:09 PM
Mar 14

From the linked Yahoo! "article" -

“Many times when Putin and Trump are interacting, Putin’s actually making fun of him,” she continued. “It’s just it’s completely lost in the translation. I can give lots of episodes of this, or he’s goading him and urging him on to something, because he’s trying to see how he’ll react and the translation smooths over all that. That context is absolutely missing. And he doesn’t do a readout afterwards.”

“All of this is amateur hour,” added Hill, who is now a senior foreign policy fellow on the U.S. and Europe at Washington-based think tank Brookings.

littlemissmartypants

(27,089 posts)
4. Three suggestions...
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:17 PM
Mar 14

1) Speed up the video.
2) Read the transcript.
3) Consider this...


An excerpt from a reply I wrote:
Snip...People just don't have the patience or attention spans that would allow them to sit down and actually watch something like a full-length movie without hitting pause, going to get snacks or toileting.

I usually set most videos speed faster sometimes to two times or 1.75 speeds because many people's videos, I believe, have plenty of redundancy built-in. I adjust the speed as necessary.

Message meaning is overwhelmingly determined by our nonverbal communication anyway. I also have decades of experience listening and analyzing people when they speak. It was a huge part of my life's work.

Honestly, I think some of the so-called experts actually slow down the original videos to keep people listening and to fudge the numbers. So much of what we are served on social media is specifically designed for monetization anyway that lots of tricks we aren't really cognizant of are being used on us for specific ends.

You may already know this, but the designated preset Ted Talk duration time of twenty minutes or less is based in communication science. It's the average time at which people, at the time of the original research, started to lose focus.

The studies that are more recently done on attention have revealed that adult "attention to task" times have significantly diminished since the introduction of mobile devices.

As a matter of fact, Chris Hayes has written an entire book on the subject called SIREN'S CALL: HOW ATTENTION BECAME THE
WORLD'S MOST ENDANGERED RESOURCE. The ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 numbers are 0593653114 and 978-0593653111, respectively, if you want to check it out. I have studied the phenomenon of attention before, going back to the 1980s, and it's not a joke when I say it's our most vital tool.
Snip...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1324&pid=1858


And I linked the article because that's where I found the video.

But thanks for kicking my post.

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bmichaelh

(764 posts)
3. Brothers Karamazov
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:29 PM
Mar 14

Supposedly, Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamazov is one of Putin's favorite books.

There is a passage from that novel that perfectly describes Trump:

From Dostoevsky's Brothers Karamazov (Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky translation)

A man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point where he does not discern any truth either in himself or anywhere around him, and thus falls into disrespect towards himself and others. Not respecting anyone, he ceases to love, and having no love, he gives himself up to passions and coarse pleasures, in order to occupy and amuse himself...and it all comes from lying continually to others and to himself. A man who lies to himself is often the first to take offense. It sometimes feels very good to take offense, doesn’t it? And surely he knows that no one has offended him, and that he himself has invented the offense and told lies just for the beauty of it, that he has exaggerated for the sake of effect, that he has picked on a word and made a mountain out of a pea—he knows all of that, and still he is the first to take offense, he likes feeling offended, it gives him great pleasure, and thus he reaches the point of real hostility

littlemissmartypants

(27,089 posts)
5. Isn't...
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:33 PM
Mar 14
The Brothers Karamazov a work of fiction?

I don't believe President Psychopath has the suggested amount of self control that the quoted excerpt implies.

By the way, do you have a link for your quote? It would be nice if you did for verification purposes.

And what information do you have that supports the premise that Putin enjoys The Brothers Karamazov as an implied favorite literary work?

Clearly, you have me thinking. Thanks for your reply, bmichaelh.

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bmichaelh

(764 posts)
7. Putin probably does not understand Karamazov
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:59 PM
Mar 14

There have been reports that it is one of his favorite books:

https://www.litsalon.co.uk/2022/12/21/the-brothers-karamazov-vladimir-putins-favourite-novel/

However, one of the themes of the novel is suffering.

Both Trump and Putin have caused a lot of suffering.

Austin Ratner wrote that Putin misunderstands Dostoyevsky:

https://lithub.com/dear-vladimir-putin-if-youve-read-dostoevsky-youve-tragically-misunderstood-him/

The section I quoted is from Book Two: An Inappropriate Gathering; Chapter 2: The Old Buffoon.

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