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muriel_volestrangler

(103,388 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 12:21 PM Feb 18

Over 200 villagers killed execution-style in Sudan, activists say

More than 200 unarmed civilians have been killed in a cluster of villages in Sudan over three days by the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) that is involved in a brutal conflict with the military, a local rights group has said.

The Emergency Lawyers network said the attacks happened in al-Kadaris and al-Khelwat towards the north of White Nile state - areas where the military had no presence.

RSF fighters were guilty of "executions, kidnappings, enforced disappearances and property looting", the network added.
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Some senior RSF leaders are currently in Kenya where they are expected to announce plans to form their own government in areas under their control.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rzw8wqn8vo

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Over 200 villagers killed execution-style in Sudan, activists say (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Feb 18 OP
I have been told this is not our concern because we are not selling weapons to Sudan sarisataka Feb 18 #1
What kind of meaningful action would you advocate? muriel_volestrangler Feb 18 #2
We, and the UN, could work with the African Union sarisataka Feb 18 #4
The Sudanese government wants "resolution" by defeating the RSF militarily muriel_volestrangler Feb 18 #5
I don't think we should arm either side; sarisataka Feb 18 #6
Inhumanity is everywhere. WhiteTara Feb 18 #3

sarisataka

(21,635 posts)
1. I have been told this is not our concern because we are not selling weapons to Sudan
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 12:52 PM
Feb 18

However I can think of at least a few other reasons why no one seems to care about an actual genocide...

It is a sorry state of affairs, but the UN is in no hurry to take any meaningful, and very little meaningless, action

muriel_volestrangler

(103,388 posts)
2. What kind of meaningful action would you advocate?
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 01:04 PM
Feb 18

It is everyone's concern, in as much we should all be aware of atrocities, but this is a civil war, and the "official" Sudan government doesn't want outside help beyond the Russians - to whom it's giving space for a naval base:

Sudan says plan for first Russian naval base in Africa will go ahead

A plan for Russia to establish its first naval base in Africa will go ahead, Sudan’s foreign minister has confirmed, after years of delays over the Red Sea military port.
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Sudan’s military and civilian leaders dragged their feet on moving ahead with the deal due to lingering differences over its terms. The civil war that started in April 2023 between the army and the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces further complicated relations between Russia and Sudan, as the Russian-backed Wagner group threw its weight behind the RSF while the Kremlin appeared to back the Sudanese army.

“Russia was playing both sides,” said Samuel Ramani, an associate fellow at the Royal United Services Institute thinktank and the author of a book on Moscow’s engagements with Africa. Since the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Wagner mercenary group’s leader, the Kremlin had “incrementally” deepened ties with the Sudanese army, Ramani added.

Last April, Russia’s deputy foreign minister, Mikhail Bogdanov, visited Sudan and pledged “uncapped” support for its army. Russia has also backed Sudan at the UN security council, where it vetoed a resolution calling for a ceasefire for humanitarian reasons, a move the UK foreign secretary, David Lammy, called a disgrace.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/13/sudan-first-russian-naval-base-in-africa-go-ahead

sarisataka

(21,635 posts)
4. We, and the UN, could work with the African Union
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 01:38 PM
Feb 18

Both Sudan and South Sudan are members. Give them the support and resources they need to attempt resolution of the conflict.

As the article you reference indicates, much of the civil war is a Russian operation. They are supporting both sides to their own benefit. We are very willing to stand up to Russia (we as in DU) in other cases, why is it we simply wring our hands helplessly when it comes to Sudan?

muriel_volestrangler

(103,388 posts)
5. The Sudanese government wants "resolution" by defeating the RSF militarily
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 01:52 PM
Feb 18

The UN, as already shown, is subject to Russian veto - they've thrown in with the government now, for the naval base. Are you saying the US or UK should arm the Sudanese government? They are, themselves, war criminals: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/sudan-armed-forces-saf-killed-dozens-in-an-air-strike-on-a-crowded-market-in-the-rapid-support-forces-rsf-controlled-town-of-kabkabiya-in-north-darfur/

sarisataka

(21,635 posts)
6. I don't think we should arm either side;
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 02:02 PM
Feb 18

the Sudanese government is as bad as the RSF.

I just find it odd how a nearby conflict can generate so much passion, protests and demands for action by the UN, ICC and individual countries. Yet this, much worse, conflict gets occasional passing mention and shrugs of 'nothing anyone can do about it'.

It seems African lives don't matter as much as other lives.

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