EV's Made in California to compete with Tesla

[SleeplessinSoCal]

One reason I've always loved the Tesla was being good for the environment and being made in California. Well I've found two more companies...

I've seen one or two of these on the road. The Lucid Air luxury car

An "affordable" SUV EV Rivian

[Wonder Why]

1. Just because they're EVs and made in the U.S. is not enough:

Consumer Reports shows this info in the current (April '25) issue

Lucid Air Overall Score 50 and 1 above the Polestar compared to BMW i4 EV at 89 and almost twice as much. Reliability much worse than average.

Rivian R1T couldn't beat a CyberCluck (55 vs 58)

Rivian R1S got a 42 and R1T got a 55.

Both Rivians and the Lucid for 2023 are in the "Best to Avoid" list.

Rivian beat out only Jeep for best brand but lower than every other manufacturer (31 total) so it was 29th out of 31. Lucid not listed probably because not enough survey answers to rate it properly.

On the other hand, Lucid had the third best when considering battery distance and DC fast charge ability. Third best in the DC Fast Charging. Well, it isn't all bad news.

[alwaysinasnit]

2. Thanks for the info!

[GreenWave]

3. It should be noted that Musk is out to destroy Rivian through abuse of government

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/high-on-the-list-of-items-ramaswamy-threat-to-claw-back-rivian-loan-sparks-criticism-of-musk-s-conflict-of-interest/ar-AA1vjCkq

Last week, the Department of Energy announced a $6.6 billion conditional loan commitment to Rivian, the electric vehicle startup that is a nascent competitor to Tesla, Musk’s $1 trillion car company.

Ramaswamy says that loan and others like it are “high on the list of items” that he will look to claw back once his cost-cutting commission, known as the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, gets going next year.

[Finishline42]

4. The video said Lucid was made in CA but...

Google says >>>
The Lucid Air is assembled at Lucid's manufacturing facility in Casa Grande, Arizona. The factory is located on a 500-acre property between Phoenix and Tucson.

Rivian's main manufacturing plant is in Normal, Illinois (initially a Chrysler plant, then a Mitsubishi plant). They do have a couple of R&D facilities in CA though.

Manufacturing facilities

Normal, Illinois
Rivian's main manufacturing facility is located in Normal, Illinois, where the R1T pickup truck, R1S SUV, and commercial vans are assembled.

Carson, California
Located south of Los Angeles, this facility focuses on electric power conversion, including the development of electric motors, inverters, and charging products.

Palo Alto, California
Located in Stanford Research Park, this facility develops vehicle electronics and software.

Plymouth, Michigan
This facility is used for vehicle development, testing, and prototyping.

Wittmann, Arizona
This facility is used for development testing on vehicle durability, thermal performance, and efficiency.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

5. Very confusing.

Found this article on CA EV's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_California?wprov=sfla1

[SleeplessinSoCal]

6. my hope is that Elon is forced out of Tesla.

Either by a hostile takeover. Or the actual creators find a way to take majority control. Whichever happens, the plants are in place to continue to manufacture EV's.