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Dulcinea

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Mon Sep 30, 2024, 08:12 AM Monday

Trump keeps warning about election 'cheating.' His Michigan supporters are ready to move on

(USA Today) WARREN, Michigan - Four years ago, some of then-President Donald Trump's supporters were so certain he won that they sued or breached the U.S. Capitol to stop the certification of the election.

Courts, audits and other reviews have disproved Trump's claims of a stolen election in 2020, when President Joe Biden won the presidency. But in the heat of another election year, Trump has primed his supporters to reject the results of a tight race. While campaigning as the 2024 Republican presidential nominee, Trump has repeatedly told them to turn out in droves and make the election "too big to rig."

He told supporters during a campaign visit in western Michigan on Friday, "They cheat, that's the only way we're going to lose." And later in the Detroit suburb of Warren, in a pre-recorded video played before he took the stage, Trump said, "Keep your eyes open, because these people want to cheat and they do cheat and frankly, it's the only thing they do well."

While Trump has yet to commit to accepting the outcome of the presidential election, several of his supporters who attended rallies in Michigan on Friday said they're ready to do so even if he loses.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-continues-warn-election-cheating-132241754.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&segment_id=DY_VTO&ncid=crm_19908-1202929-20240930-0&bt_user_id=eqtWLmAM5uxNWynWkfEgO8pAoYY8MkfeTFL%2BjifJEWBnAI54Xy%2BjIqDazTeZTmCW&bt_ts=1727696640650

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Trump keeps warning about election 'cheating.' His Michigan supporters are ready to move on (Original Post) Dulcinea Monday OP
Yep, still using the dogwhistle tricks .. Think. Again. Monday #1
IANAL -misanthroptimist Monday #2
He seems to know about election cheating. twodogsbarking Monday #3

Think. Again.

(16,293 posts)
1. Yep, still using the dogwhistle tricks ..
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:10 AM
Monday

...that the doj didn't hold him responsible for using last time.

Funny how that works.

-misanthroptimist

(1,039 posts)
2. IANAL
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:44 AM
Monday
So, can some law-talking guy or gal tell me why some of Trump's crap doesn't fall into one or more of the following?

18 USC Ch. 115:

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection


Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

§2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

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