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Dulcinea

(7,243 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2024, 11:29 AM Sunday

Many Americans say immigration is out of control, but 24 hours on the Texas-Mexico border showed a new reality.

(Texas Tribune) As midnight nears, the lights of El Paso, Texas, and Ciudad Juárez, Mexico, fill the sky on the silent banks of the Rio Grande. A few months ago, hundreds of asylum-seeking families, including crying toddlers, waited for an opening to crawl through razor wire from Juarez into El Paso. No one is waiting there now.

Nearly 500 miles away, in the border city of Eagle Pass, large groups of migrants that were once commonplace are rarely seen on the riverbanks these days.

In McAllen, at the other end of the Texas border, two Border Patrol agents scan fields for five hours without encountering a single migrant.

It’s a return to relative calm after an unprecedented surge of immigrants through the southern border in recent years. But no one would know that listening to Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump talking about border enforcement at dueling presidential campaign events. And no one would know from the rate at which Texas is spending on a border crackdown called Operation Lone Star — $11 billion since 2021.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-americans-immigration-control-24-100000407.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&segment_id=DY_VTO&ncid=crm_19908-1202929-20240929-0&bt_user_id=u7Z7ZvoK6P6g0sQ%2FWpL6YD8m%2F63MfPi0gHakgZp0zlUZsorLZyDVBwhh3LQd5oPE&bt_ts=1727605978574

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Many Americans say immigration is out of control, but 24 hours on the Texas-Mexico border showed a new reality. (Original Post) Dulcinea Sunday OP
Immigration has been "out of control" BOSSHOG Sunday #1
Border here in my area of AZ seems to have quieted down considerably of late Attilatheblond Sunday #2
I have family who live in Cochise County lees1975 Monday #6
This is a seasonal reality - not puzzling at all FakeNoose Sunday #3
It denied some amount of responsibility ... Igel Sunday #4
The main point for me is that Republicans have demagogued this issue to death while NEVER doing anything to fix it LymphocyteLover Monday #5

BOSSHOG

(39,126 posts)
1. Immigration has been "out of control"
Sun Sep 29, 2024, 11:39 AM
Sunday

For centuries. Thank Goodness. If it weren’t I wouldn’t be here. Both my great grandfathers immigrated in the 1890s. It’s akin to saying Roth IRAs are out of control.

I recall about 15 years ago, “Patriots” in Georgia scared off immigrants for some alleged slight. Then the “Patriots” were whining later in the year when all the produce was rotting on the vine.

Attilatheblond

(3,892 posts)
2. Border here in my area of AZ seems to have quieted down considerably of late
Sun Sep 29, 2024, 11:39 AM
Sunday

Glad we aren't dealing with VERY young (some were under 14 years old) 'load car' drivers often now. All those (US born) drivers moving people from the border into places north, particularly Phoenix, were engaged in a lot of high speed chases thru our little city, many accidents, several fatalities.

The people hiring undocumented people for labor they can abuse/exploit have used social media platforms to offer what is big money to very young people, for drivers to pick up people near the border and haul ass north. Too many young fools have watched too many Fast & Furious movies and think they are stunt drivers. Too young to even consider they are mortal, several found out the hard way that they were mortal.

lees1975

(5,339 posts)
6. I have family who live in Cochise County
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 06:03 PM
Monday

and have said pretty much the same thing. It's been quiet, now that Biden's executive order, replacing legislation that Trump told his cronies in Congress to sabotage. After the election, when we control the White House and both houses, we can pass that law and President Harris can sign it.

Trump's only border policies are failures. Round up and deport. Or build a wall that Mexico didn't and won't pay for, and that won't compete with the sophisticated tunnels and underground passageways built by cartels.

Harris wants to solve the problems by increasing border patrol presence, wow, amazing how that works, giving them better surveilance equipment and the ability to detect fentanyl. Republicans think the solution to everything is to cut the budget so billionaires can have their taxes cut, and then pressure the border patrol to do an impossible job with fewer men and fewer resources. That's the Republican way.

FakeNoose

(35,048 posts)
3. This is a seasonal reality - not puzzling at all
Sun Sep 29, 2024, 12:50 PM
Sunday

The migrant workers come in the spring and summer months to work on US farms. The pay is better here than what they can make at home. But they have no reason to stay here when they aren't getting paid to pick crops. They don't want to pay our higher prices and endure the harsher winters here in the US.

This is a no-brainer.

Igel

(35,924 posts)
4. It denied some amount of responsibility ...
Sun Sep 29, 2024, 02:03 PM
Sunday

When that needs to be denied when bad and asserted when good.

But it is seasonal, and with increased levels of crossing there's less pressure to not bother with legal niceties when crossing the border.

DU knew this when it tapered off under Trump's regime for summer, the consensus being it was just seasonal the usual seasonal trend and not anything Trump did.

LymphocyteLover

(6,345 posts)
5. The main point for me is that Republicans have demagogued this issue to death while NEVER doing anything to fix it
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 08:05 AM
Monday

it's cynical, grossly racist politics for them

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