Scores Fall Ill at Air Force Base After Hegseth Makes Flu Vaccine Optional
Source: NYT
A major flu outbreak has sickened nearly 160 troops at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas less than two months after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced that U.S. troops would no longer be required to be vaccinated for the flu, defense officials said.
The outbreak at the base in San Antonio raced through an Air Force Basic Military Training wing, where new recruits sleep on bunk beds in open bays and share meals at large communal tables.
A trainee in his sixth week of basic training died after falling ill on Friday and being taken to Brooke Army Medical Center, the Air Force said in a news release. It was not immediately clear whether the death of the trainee, Keon McDaniel, was related to the flu outbreak.
In the weeks since Mr. Hegseths vaccine policy took effect on April 21, only about 40 percent of Air Force trainees have opted to take the vaccine, which had previously been mandatory, an Air Force official said.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/18/us/flu-outbreak-air-force-base.html
UpInArms
(55,599 posts)just how deadly stupid can get
Lovie777
(24,362 posts)shithole's 1st term - Covid.
One of my father-in-law's best friends refused the Covid shot believing in shithole and the republican party. Months later, he died from Covid but he did relate this "I should have taken the shot".
RockRaven
(20,021 posts)perdita9
(1,369 posts)Flu, bacterial meningitis, etc. are famous for outbreaks among the military, college campuses and scout camps.
That's why colleges and the military require vaccinations. Scientists and doctors want to prevent death. The pro-lifers seem to court it.
ananda
(35,749 posts)It's a murder-suicide cult.
Karasu
(2,281 posts)are the ones who mainstreamed this anti-vax bullshit to begin with.
The only problem is that their rejection of science and love affair with quackery pose an imminent health threat to everyone, including the military they (at least pretend to) love so much.
How the fuck does legitimizing anti-vax shit not count as undermining military readiness, anyhow?
MoseShrute
(163 posts)Bo Zarts
(26,477 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,772 posts)So, no lessons learned.
Bo Zarts
(26,477 posts)The captain he rides in his gig ..
It don't make a damn bit of difference,
But it makes the old bastard feel big.
Sanity Claws
(22,460 posts)Makes me wonder whether it is something else.
LisaL
(47,960 posts)Now majority of them are un-vaccinated. Late in a season, not late in a season, it doesn't matter. Whatever one of them has is going to spread around to the others.
paleotn
(23,038 posts)People just spread out when the weather warms, limiting transmission. That's hard to do when you're cooped up with a bunch of guys during basic.
littlemissmartypants
(35,381 posts)MissouriDem47
(452 posts)I got my first flu shot at Lackland AFB in 1966. I'm still here so evidently it did me no harm.
Martin68
(28,245 posts)Jim__
(15,309 posts)From National Library of Medicine:
the nelm
(315 posts)"In February 1777, Gen. Washington ordered the mandatory inoculation of Continental Army troops against smallpox, implementing what historians consider the first mass immunization policy in American history."
https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/washingtons-war-against-smallpox-revolutionary-inoculation-campaign/
Historic NY
(40,185 posts)he even had a few local residents and officials that interacted with the army vaccinated. Dr Samuel Adams Jr. was the surgeon charged with getting it done. New recruits coming in were isolated from the rest of the camps population until they were vaccinated
muriel_volestrangler
(106,793 posts)eppur_se_muova
(42,870 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)
Of course, in a better world, Kegsbreath would never have been approved in the first place.
One reason the "Spanish Flu" of WWI was so lethal was that there were thousands of new recruits packed into crowded tents and barracks on US Army bases. Once the flu hit, it spread like wildfire, and young men's lives were consumed like tinder. That's what happens when there are no vaccines. That lesson has been repeated over and over, but the slow learners still don't get it.
LisaL
(47,960 posts)How are they going to be ready for anything if a large number of them got the flu?
eppur_se_muova
(42,870 posts)... but they were probably vaccinated.
(or Venezuelan, Cuban, Greenlander, etc.)
littlemissmartypants
(35,381 posts)riversedge
(82,099 posts)LisaL
(47,960 posts)made it optional. A majority would not get vaccinated unless it's mandatory, and we can clearly see the outcome.
chowder66
(12,671 posts)calimary
(91,345 posts)thought this up.
Hmmmm
what might happen if we tried something like this on the Americans?
Subtle but certain.
LisaL
(47,960 posts)and getting the flu.
Figarosmom
(14,542 posts)And really want to scream I TOLD YOU SO?
LisaL
(47,960 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(12,300 posts)to Trumpism.
SorellaLaBefana
(537 posts)We have come So Very Far, and now, as a society, we wish to return to the per-Enlightenment days of ignorance and needless death.
40% of boots took the vax!? That is the result of decades of lies on 'news' programs and of schools being unable to teach science, or reasoning.
Even MILITARY Science is turning to crap: Force Preservation being one of the foundations of an effective military.
The ROMANS knew that, which is why had they sewage design regulations for even over night temporary encampments (which also required the construction of a temporary palisade from staves carried for this purpose). If given a choice, expect that a lot of Legionaries would have passed on doing any of that - especially as it might have to be repeated the next night, after a long days march.
The reforms of Gaius Marius had greatly reduced the use of slow and vulnerable baggage trains by having the Legionnaires carry more of their own stuff which typically ended up being 60-80 pounds of gear.
paleotn
(23,038 posts)These are the things that make me want to beat my head on the desk.
UpInArms
(55,599 posts)Has a sign that says:
Science does not care what you believe
Sane1
(235 posts)Drink more whiskey you sissies!
vapor2
(5,109 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(138,617 posts)Even George Washington inoculated his troops.
BadgerMom
(3,466 posts)I guess when the president is so phenomenally ignorant about history that he didnt realize signing a treaty at Versailles might bring up echoes of the past, his SOD wouldnt see a parallel to Washingtons decision.
COL Mustard
(8,480 posts)Then this moron comes in and changes the rules, I'm not surprised at a major outbreak. He's really that stupid. And I'll bet he's gotten his vaccinations. He doesn't want to get sick.
LisaL
(47,960 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(183,665 posts)Eight weeks after flu vaccines became optional in the armed forces, were already seeing the consequences of the Pentagon chiefs shortsighted policy.
Two months after Hegsethâs regressive move, Air Force base faces major flu outbreak
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Eight weeks after flu vaccines became optional in the armed forces, weâre already seeing the consequences of the Pentagon chiefâs shortsighted policy.
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/hegseth-vaccines-air-force-base-flu-outbreak
The change led to a variety of questions, including the obvious one: How long would it take before this misguided, regressive and unnecessary decision backfired on the armed forces? The answer, it turns out, is not quite two months. The New York Times reported:
A major flu outbreak has sickened nearly 160 troops at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas less than two months after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced that U.S. troops would no longer be required to be vaccinated for the flu, defense officials said.
The outbreak at the base in San Antonio raced through an Air Force Basic Military Training wing, where new recruits sleep on bunk beds in open bays and share meals at large communal tables.
The Times report noted that one trainee in his sixth week of basic training died after falling ill late last week, although the exact cause of death is still under investigation.
The report added that only about 40% of Air Force trainees have opted to take the flu vaccine a total that used to be 100%, because it wasnt optional. In response to the outbreak at Lackland, the base received an exception from Hegseths policy and is now requiring recruits to get vaccinated......
The point is not to intrude on medical autonomy, a phrase Hegseth emphasized when he made the change in April. Rather, military leaders, during Democratic and Republican administrations, have long understood that readiness requires healthy troops, many of whom often serve in close quarters with fellow service members, here and abroad.
As The Atlantics Adam Serwer noted, Nothing has killed more soldiers in the history of humanity than disease. American leaders have wisely taken steps for generations to try to prevent this from happening.
It might be tempting to think officials at the Defense Department would see what happened at Lackland Air Force Base and reassess Hegseths mistake from two months ago. But thats apparently not going to happen: The Pentagons chief spokesman told the Times that the department stands by the secretarys decision
pat_k
(14,474 posts)It's only been eight weeks, so it is primarily among new recruits that a large percent are unvaccinated. Next flu season, it will be service members across all branches and levels.
LisaL
(47,960 posts)There will be infections spreading around.
Aussie105
(8,325 posts)Trump and Hegseth will just brand them as losers.
Culling of the herd through disease strengthens the herd, and all that.
TomSlick
(13,119 posts)Grammy23
(6,138 posts)I was teaching a kindergarten class and fell ill in Feb. Valentines Day to be exact. I went to my doctor because I was so sick I knew it was no ordinary head cold. In addition, I was as weak as a kitten. My doctor informed me that I had the flu and Id be sick for at least a week and to be prepared to stay home for that long. I thought he was exaggerating and figured Id be up and around by the end of that week. In other words, three or four days. I was wrong. I was in bed sick as a dog for the full week. There was no Tamiflu or other drugs at that time. Just treat the fever and call him back if I developed other symptoms that could be treated, such as cough.
The following week I returned to my job because all the flu symptoms were gone. But here is the truth. I felt like a zombie and just moved slowly through my days, barely keeping myself upright. It took three full weeks for me to begin to feel like myself again. That meant a total of one month, counting the actual time I was in bed and the recovery period afterward.
Flu is no joke. Kegsbreath needs to enjoy a bout or two of the flu to fully appreciate what he brought upon those young people in training. They are far too young to fully understand what opting out of the flu shot was risking. He is not qualified to make that decision about to vaccinate or not. That is best left to medical professionals. Thank goodness for Tamiflu. I hope they had plenty of it to help those young recruits recover.
Seinan Sensei
(1,718 posts)dave99
(451 posts)orleans
(37,418 posts)how stupid they are.
damn!
dave99
(451 posts)patphil
(9,314 posts)I remember being on KP (kitchen police) duty there when we landed on the moon. They had us stop our work, and brought us all into the dining hall with monitors going so we could hear the landing. It was an amazing place for young recruits from all over the nation to get their first taste of military life.
The key words here are, "from all over the nation".
It's the perfect place for a disease to be propagated among the recruits. That's why they did the mandatory vaccine thing when I was there.
But stupid runs deep in the Trump regime, so we have unvaccinated recruits being exposed to a lot of people from all over the nation, some of which may be infected with various diseases.
These assholes haven't got a clue as to how to run our military.
purr-rat beauty
(1,615 posts)Looking back I thoroughly appreciate the TI's and the base. Marching in formation with flashlights in the early morning was calming.
We had some colds at the beginning but no serious illness nor deaths (rip).
This is an absolute shame, this lack of awareness will be sabotaging battle readiness.
patphil
(9,314 posts)Their job was to toughen us up; make men out of boys...pretty much a bullshit task, but they did the best they could.
I won't ever forget all the new, and strange experiences we had there. I cam from a small town in northern New York, where there was only one black family in a town of around 6500 people.
It was quite different in basic training, where I met black, brown, and Asian guys. This was my first real incursion into the world at large.
All in all, I would rather not have been in the military. A couple of my friends who didn't get that experience got a big head start on me as far as getting jobs and building a life was concerned, but I got an education as to the strangeness of military life.
One more thing, since this was 1969, the Vietnam war was a big factor in choosing to enlist in the Air Force. Not going to be stuck on a hill in the jungle waiting for the Vietcong to attack. As it was, all but 4 guys in my barracks at my tech school had at least a 2-yr degree in college.
Also, 4 guys from my high school died in Vietnam. What a fucking waste.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,811 posts)Makes one wonder what the case load data is for other military bases, including those overseas. I'm also curious to know if our soldiers are allowed to refuse other vaccinations such as DPT.
This stupid policy would make it more likely our troops could spread this and other communicable diseases into off-base communities as well. If they don't change this soon, I can see some military bases being in for a very nasty winter season.....
Orrex
(67,519 posts)is intended to weaken, diminish, destabilize, and isolate the nation for the benefit of a hostile foreign power to whom Trump is deeply in debt.
Almost.
Old Crank
(7,414 posts)I guess the goos news is that this is mostly basic trainees not people on full duty.
But still. Hopefully the fools in charge will change their idiot policy.
I doubt it.
Bengus81
(10,532 posts)Lovie777
(24,362 posts)Blumancru
(376 posts)The intention may be to weaken and sideline the US in any way they can, while Putin reassembles (or at least tries to reassemble) the Russian Empire.
It may be an intention to reduce the world population. The resources of the world will last much longer with fewer people. AI is around to run a lot of the mundane things, so all of us will not be needed.
The future is shaping up to be a cross between The Handmaids Tale and Max Max.
LetMyPeopleVote
(183,665 posts)