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ForgoTheConsequence

(5,235 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 07:27 PM Tuesday

Hillary Clinton says Biden's re-election bid cost Democrats the 2024 election

Source: The Guardian

Joe Biden’s decision to seek a second term was “a terrible mistake” that cost Democrats the presidency and may have permanently damaged his legacy, Hillary Clinton has declared.

Speaking at the 92nd Street Y in Manhattan on Monday, the former US secretary of state and 2016 Democratic nominee said Biden had reneged on a prior commitment to step aside – and that the betrayal of that promise proved catastrophic. “He made a terrible mistake for himself, his legacy, and for the country,” she said.

Clinton argued that had Biden announced in late summer 2023 that he would not run, a genuine Democratic primary would have produced a stronger nominee.

“I believe whoever emerged from that contest, whether it was the vice-president or a governor or a senator or anybody else, would have beaten Donald Trump,” she said, calling the decision to stay in the race “a terrible miscalculation”.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lhQp47IdK0w

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/16/hillary-clinton-joe-biden-2024-election

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Hillary Clinton says Biden's re-election bid cost Democrats the 2024 election (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Tuesday OP
She's not wrong calguy Tuesday #1
He should've announced he wasn't running again, right after the (fairly) successful midterms... 68er Tuesday #2
I very openly advocated that he should be running in 2020 expplicitly as a one-term President. Bluetus Tuesday #20
Agreed. He would not have had to keep any "powder dry" for a second term, in that case... 68er Tuesday #21
I had strongly hoped when I voted for him ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Wednesday #29
Manchin and Sinema... Chemical Bill Thursday #43
She's definitely correct JBTaurus83 Tuesday #3
To embed a YT Short video on DU... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #4
Thanks! Noted for next time. ForgoTheConsequence Tuesday #6
👍❤️ littlemissmartypants Tuesday #7
File in the "no shit" file. He said in '20 he'd likely NOT run for a 2nd term. Callie1979 Tuesday #5
Hillary bromeando Tuesday #8
I don't think it had anything to do with power Bayard Wednesday #24
Yes. But he was a stubborn man too convinced that he could overcome any challenge. pat_k Thursday #56
Biden never promised that or committed to that. There's no reason to bring all this crap up. LymphocyteLover Tuesday #9
Clinton was asked a question in Interview. She answered it. delisen Tuesday #11
And people are sick of politicians being evasive and too "coached" Bluetus Tuesday #22
She could've answered that without dumping so harshly on Joe Biden, a totally decent man and good president LymphocyteLover Wednesday #33
Yes. He did. Akakoji Tuesday #12
"So did Biden promise or pledge or signal that he would be a one-term president? No, not explicitly." LymphocyteLover Wednesday #32
https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2019-12-11/joe-biden-suggests-he-would-only-serve-one-term-if-elected-pre Akakoji Thursday #44
Unnamed sources mean little. Biden himself never made that pledge or promise. He hinted at it once but that's it. LymphocyteLover Thursday #49
No, he didn't Mysterian Thursday #48
Stating the obvious Akakoji Tuesday #10
Well, technically he was Polybius Tuesday #14
What's the difference between technically lying and lying? Akakoji Wednesday #26
I meant technically he was a one term President Polybius Wednesday #31
She's not wrong but it's still a little bit weird that she's made a statement like that in public All Things Considered, msfiddlestix Tuesday #13
She was interviewed, and someone asked if it was a mistake that he ran again (initially) Polybius Tuesday #15
👍 msfiddlestix Tuesday #18
I absolutely assumed, when I voted for Biden in 2020, that he would serve a placeholder role Prairie Gates Tuesday #16
I basically thought that it was inevitable that Biden would serve only one term. Midwestern Democrat Yesterday #59
I agree with Clinton. Biden was losing stamina and credibility, but his staff held on too long. Martin68 Tuesday #17
If Trump weren't stealing so much money for the family syndicate from our tax dollars Akakoji Wednesday #28
Sadly, he undid what should have been a brilliant legacy. He could have been among the best one-termers, instead... johnnyplankton Tuesday #19
Sadly, I arrived at the same conclusion. sprinkleeninow Wednesday #23
Pardon me. I love them both but usonian Wednesday #25
So it's okay to say it now? Demobrat Wednesday #27
But would it have been better? dadzilla Wednesday #30
Did you mean AIPAC? nt. Scruffy1 Wednesday #34
Was she trying to be a progressive dream? Akakoji Thursday #45
She is probably right. But we still had a good candidate in Kamala. Katinfl Wednesday #35
Don't forget that right wing scumballs at Fox (don't call it) news lied about Kamala and Trump ificandream Wednesday #38
Very true and there are people who listen or pay attention to nothing else. Katinfl Wednesday #40
Thanks for the update from the Clinton machine, Hil. Mysterian Wednesday #36
I don't agree about helping Republicans, but we should have listened to her in 2016. ificandream Wednesday #39
At this point in history, every Democratic voice that is not calling for unity to fight fascism Mysterian Wednesday #41
The DNC ran a postmortem on the election iemanja Thursday #42
Well, blaming it all on Biden is the easy and wrong way to do that Mysterian Thursday #46
You can't be serious iemanja Thursday #50
Is that supposed to be some kind of retort? Mysterian Thursday #54
It means your comment isn't true iemanja Thursday #55
I have no antipathy for Mrs. Clinton, but I realized the only reason she came to national prominence Mysterian Friday #57
When Biden had that moment in the debate where he blanked out, my heart sank. CTyankee Wednesday #37
Perhaps there is some truth in that, but the real reason the Democratic Party lost the 2024 was the dumbsh*ts who artemisia1 Thursday #47
Hillary will not be in the 2028 finals tirebiter Thursday #51
Now I would like to hear about the other valuable life lessons we learned in 2024. And in general. Alice B. Thursday #52
I believe that the party did itself serious damage snot Thursday #53
Must have been super awkward yesterday in Chicago. mahina Friday #58

68er

(36 posts)
2. He should've announced he wasn't running again, right after the (fairly) successful midterms...
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 07:36 PM
Tuesday

The political buzz would've kept more of the wind-up doll media spotlight away from Tr*mp during that period, too...

Bluetus

(3,256 posts)
20. I very openly advocated that he should be running in 2020 expplicitly as a one-term President.
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 11:32 PM
Tuesday

There were already concerns about his age. Announcing in 2020 that he intended to come in and spend 4 years using everything he had learned during his career to get the country back on track following the disastrous Trump first term (rampnt graft, selling out to our enemies, COVID, 2 impeachments, etc.) and NOT run for a second term. That would have been seen as the capstone of a long career of public service.

He could have even taken it one step further and committed to convening ann the living Presidents (except Trump) regularly as were were putting the country back together.

This kind of posture could have given him a much broader mandate to make needed changes like reforming the Spureme Court. because he honestly could say it had nothing to do with any of his political ambitions.

68er

(36 posts)
21. Agreed. He would not have had to keep any "powder dry" for a second term, in that case...
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 11:34 PM
Tuesday

... and could've been much more unfettered in protecting the democracy we've now lost.

29. I had strongly hoped when I voted for him ...
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 02:30 AM
Wednesday

... he would commit to a single term and spend much of that term trying to codify into law all the norms and traditions that Trump showed to be ignorable and toothless in his first term. Setting strong boundaries on the power of the president that Trump so flagrantly abused and enlarged.

I was saddened when he did neither.

I would still have voted for him in 2024 if he had stayed on the ballot and I did vote for Harris.

But the lack of new laws has allowed Trump to go much further in his second term. Not that he does not regularly flout the existing laws.

Chemical Bill

(3,240 posts)
43. Manchin and Sinema...
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 03:28 AM
Thursday

made sure no laws were passed to prevent the second coming of TSF. Biden did his best, to no avail.

JBTaurus83

(1,820 posts)
3. She's definitely correct
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 07:42 PM
Tuesday

I’m sure there will be people pointing that out about her as well. Democrats as voters seem to be pretty “one and done” with our candidates if they don’t succeed in a race like the Presidential race.

Callie1979

(1,477 posts)
5. File in the "no shit" file. He said in '20 he'd likely NOT run for a 2nd term.
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 07:51 PM
Tuesday

We shouldve had a primary.
Once again Hillary is right.

Bayard

(30,619 posts)
24. I don't think it had anything to do with power
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 12:04 AM
Wednesday

I have never doubted that Pres. Biden was always trying to do the right thing for this country.

pat_k

(14,474 posts)
56. Yes. But he was a stubborn man too convinced that he could overcome any challenge.
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 09:43 PM
Thursday

His determination made him a good president.

I think that determination turned into a stubborn bullheaded belief that he could overcome "the age problem," just as he had overcome so many seemingly insurmountable challenges in his personal and political life.

And that was a terrible mistake.

But he was not alone in his belief in himself.

Before he announced I had many, many, many, many heated conversations with my step-father.

My step-father was convinced Biden was absolutely the best candidate and absolutely should run. He didn't think there was anyone else out there as strong. He said I was just being ageist.

I was sending messages to the White House begging him not to run. (Others I knew were "praying" for the same in their own ways. Sending my little pleas into the WH abyss was my "prayer" ).

I was flabbergasted with my step-father's view. Every argument I highlighted the many pluses for this or that great candidate. We had, and have, so many great candidates on our bench. He was worried that Kamala would be "anointed" and wasn't the best. I argued she would have challengers. He always had reasons against this or that person. I would get pissed and end up saying (or yelling) that's what a primary is for!!

As time passed and Biden put off making the decision (compressing time for "the field" to emerge) I became increasingly angry and my step-father increasingly convinced that Biden would, and should run.

It wasn't even a month into Biden's campaign that my step-father told me I was right. He had been watching campaign events and realized Biden was not looking good. The campaign my step-father was seeing was miles away from his image of what a Biden campaign would look like. Age had done what age does and Biden was visibly dimished by it.

But then it was too late. We all had to rally behind him and believe this man could pull it off with our support.

And we all know what happen next.

If he hadn't run, would the party have "anointed" Kamala as next in line? Maybe. Maybe not. Had she been "anointed" would a full campaign season have given her space to separate herself from Biden and build a truly winning campaign? Maybe. Maybe not. If it had been a "field" in the running, would it result in the party coalescing behind a candidate that would go on to win? Maybe. Maybe not

The only thing wrong with Hillary's statement is the unequivocal assertion that the decision cost Democrats the Presidency.

We will never know the path not taken. But I do agree that running was a terrible mistake.

The path not taken may not have led to victory, but at least it was not a path that was doomed from the start.

delisen

(7,493 posts)
11. Clinton was asked a question in Interview. She answered it.
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 08:54 PM
Tuesday

She pulled no punches and also did the same on Trump, Iran, Netanyahu, and Clarence Thomas.

It was refreshing to hear a politician speak her mind. The interview is long. Found it on you tune. David Remnick interviewed at 97NY on June 15, 2026, yesterday.

I found it illuminating.

Bluetus

(3,256 posts)
22. And people are sick of politicians being evasive and too "coached"
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 11:37 PM
Tuesday

We are hearing plain talk from people like AOC, Mamdani, Newsom, Pritzker, Platner, and now Ossoff and Talarico. I welcome Hillary adding to that with her voice.

Democrats finding a voice after a couple of generations of constant equivocation. Americans hate that. They want to follow people who speak with some clarity and conviction, not just platitutudes and slogans.

LymphocyteLover

(10,360 posts)
33. She could've answered that without dumping so harshly on Joe Biden, a totally decent man and good president
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 06:59 AM
Wednesday

LymphocyteLover

(10,360 posts)
32. "So did Biden promise or pledge or signal that he would be a one-term president? No, not explicitly."
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 06:57 AM
Wednesday
Some one-term truthers also cite a March 2020 speech in which Biden called himself a “bridge” to a new generation of Democratic leaders. Here’s what he said specifically: “Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else. There’s an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind me. They are the future of this country.”

So did Biden promise or pledge or signal that he would be a one-term president? No, not explicitly. A bridge can be short, like the world’s shortest international bridge, or long, like … various other bridges. As I said Tuesday, it’s really most appropriate to say that the president “floated” serving one term before backing away from the idea.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/06/biden-president-trump-rematch-one-term-promise-nate-silver.html

Akakoji

(618 posts)
44. https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2019-12-11/joe-biden-suggests-he-would-only-serve-one-term-if-elected-pre
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 03:43 AM
Thursday
Former Vice President Joe Biden has reportedly indicated that he would only serve for one term if elected to the presidency.
Several sources within the Biden campaign told Politico that the 2020 Democratic candidate would not run for reelection in 2024, when he would be 82 years old. "If Biden is elected, he's going to be 82 years old in four years and he won't be running for reelection," a prominent adviser to the campaign told Politico. A 2020 front-runner, Biden, has faced questions about his age and fitness to serve in the White House. Campaign advisers argue that announcing his intention to only serve one term and signalling that he will choose a younger running mate and cabinet would increase Biden's chances of being the Democratic nominee.



There are lots and lots more.

LymphocyteLover

(10,360 posts)
49. Unnamed sources mean little. Biden himself never made that pledge or promise. He hinted at it once but that's it.
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 04:39 PM
Thursday

Akakoji

(618 posts)
10. Stating the obvious
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 08:53 PM
Tuesday

Guess he was lying when he said that he would only be a one term President. He should have just let it go.

msfiddlestix

(8,191 posts)
13. She's not wrong but it's still a little bit weird that she's made a statement like that in public All Things Considered,
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 09:13 PM
Tuesday

Throwing rocks and glass windows and all that

Polybius

(22,270 posts)
15. She was interviewed, and someone asked if it was a mistake that he ran again (initially)
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 09:36 PM
Tuesday

I appreciated her honest answer.

Prairie Gates

(8,637 posts)
16. I absolutely assumed, when I voted for Biden in 2020, that he would serve a placeholder role
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 09:42 PM
Tuesday

It's truly a lesson in "My precious." People can't let go of it.

Midwestern Democrat

(1,052 posts)
59. I basically thought that it was inevitable that Biden would serve only one term.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 05:08 AM
Yesterday

I thought it would be pretty much an unquestioned given within the party that we could not run an 82 year old man for a second four year term as president. Which is why the Kamala Harris VP selection baffled me - I know why he did it - but given the high likelihood of him only serving one term, I didn't think we really had the luxury of making a choice like that - I strongly felt we needed to have an heir apparent in the spot - one who would be given a prominent role within the administration.

Akakoji

(618 posts)
28. If Trump weren't stealing so much money for the family syndicate from our tax dollars
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 01:18 AM
Wednesday

The GOP would have thrown him off Trump Tower. Ever heard of Peter Thiel?

johnnyplankton

(674 posts)
19. Sadly, he undid what should have been a brilliant legacy. He could have been among the best one-termers, instead...
Tue Jun 16, 2026, 10:16 PM
Tuesday

usonian

(27,037 posts)
25. Pardon me. I love them both but
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 12:12 AM
Wednesday

If neither one, even for good medical reason, is going to stand up loudly against the Trump Putsch, then let them work things out very, very privately.

They are party past. We can't win with revisionist history.

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The revolutionary Democratic party WILL WIN. The old party just walked away from the battle in 2024, when we needed them the most.

This party.


dadzilla

(84 posts)
30. But would it have been better?
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 03:42 AM
Wednesday

I'll just say it, she;'s as sharp a mind as you could expect from a blue dog dem. That said, what could we really expected of her term in office. Did she have the ovaries to tell APIC to sit down? Was she astute enough to push back on the tech bros? It's easy to look back and lay out a fantasy of what could have been.

Would it have been better than tRump, clearly. But I wouldn't say it would be a progressive dream either.

Katinfl

(933 posts)
35. She is probably right. But we still had a good candidate in Kamala.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 07:52 AM
Wednesday

The fact remains that people did not realize how much Biden had accomplished to get us through Covid, get the economy back on track and all the other good things he did. They fell for trumps BS, did not remember his first term or chose to forget it, would not vote for a black woman, chose to sit this one out, etc…….whatever the reason, we are where we are because voters simply chose to take the easy way out. Whether Biden stayed in or not, the outcome would have probably been the same. We had a great candidate who stepped up to the plate on short notice, did a fantastic job and still lost to an idiot.

The choice could not have been clearer and yet this is what we got. What does that say about this country?

ificandream

(11,862 posts)
38. Don't forget that right wing scumballs at Fox (don't call it) news lied about Kamala and Trump
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 03:36 PM
Wednesday

They did everything to slam her and everything they could to praise him. That's where the blame lies.

Katinfl

(933 posts)
40. Very true and there are people who listen or pay attention to nothing else.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 04:08 PM
Wednesday

They are ignorant in my opinion. Hence, we are where we are. Sad fact is nothing will change. They will not change.

Mysterian

(6,714 posts)
36. Thanks for the update from the Clinton machine, Hil.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 08:54 AM
Wednesday

Your looking and speaking to the past is doing nobody except republicans any good.

ificandream

(11,862 posts)
39. I don't agree about helping Republicans, but we should have listened to her in 2016.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 03:37 PM
Wednesday

That's where we really screwed up. What she's saying now really doesn't matter. The 2024 election is over and done.

Mysterian

(6,714 posts)
41. At this point in history, every Democratic voice that is not calling for unity to fight fascism
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 04:45 PM
Wednesday

is helping republicans.

iemanja

(57,808 posts)
42. The DNC ran a postmortem on the election
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 02:44 AM
Thursday

The goal was to figure out how not to repeat past mistakes. Martin, of course, fucked it up. But the fact remains that we must understand what went wrong in past elections to be able to win in the future.

Mysterian

(6,714 posts)
46. Well, blaming it all on Biden is the easy and wrong way to do that
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 12:41 PM
Thursday

I don't recall any comparable "post-mortem" when Clinton lost to Trump. Weird.

iemanja

(57,808 posts)
55. It means your comment isn't true
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 08:47 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu Jun 18, 2026, 10:00 PM - Edit history (1)

1) There were several autopsies on the election by Democratic groups. 2) There were nothing but recriminations of Hillary, and women’s rights for that matter. If you were on DU at that time, you know it.
3) There were endless articles in the press about what she did wrong. Why are you pretending otherwise?

Your so-called call for unity is rendered hollow by your stated antipathy for Hillary. Then there is the fact that you can’t distinguish her as an individual as district from her husband’s former political power, as though women are mere appendages of men.

Mysterian

(6,714 posts)
57. I have no antipathy for Mrs. Clinton, but I realized the only reason she came to national prominence
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 09:50 AM
Friday

was her marriage to Bill Clinton. That is reality, as uncomfortable as it might be for you. I considered her a weak candidate on the national level. Please direct me to a link to a Democratic National Committee contracted report on Mrs. Clinton's electiion loss, as was done for President Biden's. Your reference to unnamed "Democratic groups" carries no weight. Thanks.

CTyankee

(68,589 posts)
37. When Biden had that moment in the debate where he blanked out, my heart sank.
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 02:16 PM
Wednesday

Something was wrong. I had never seen Biden that way before.

artemisia1

(1,922 posts)
47. Perhaps there is some truth in that, but the real reason the Democratic Party lost the 2024 was the dumbsh*ts who
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 01:36 PM
Thursday

fell for Donald Trump for a second time because they admired his worst attributes and thought he'd help them by going after their scapegoats.

Alice B.

(759 posts)
52. Now I would like to hear about the other valuable life lessons we learned in 2024. And in general.
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 06:24 PM
Thursday

Just blaming the "who" is too easy and pat. People love simple answers.

We may've won in 2024 but we also might've only been delaying what happened.

I was unemployed at the time and would've invited any candidate to spend some time deep in the communities of the unemployed and job-seekers. Not everyone felt seen and touched by the economic messaging and I could see how some people might've felt left behind and been tempted to push that button.

I have Tr*mp voters in the family and I'm honestly not even sure they *realized* Biden wasn't running, from comments made after the election.

snot

(11,918 posts)
53. I believe that the party did itself serious damage
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 06:31 PM
Thursday

by foregoing primaries, which (a) would have flushed out more clearly whether and to what extent Biden was in fact fit for another term; (b) would have given voters a chance to evaluate other potential candidates and hopefully come up with the one with the best chance of beating Trump; and (c) would have been more democratic, which a lot of voters, both Dem & otherwise, still consider important.

mahina

(20,819 posts)
58. Must have been super awkward yesterday in Chicago.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 09:39 PM
Friday

Hillaryʻs comment is fair, but I bet Joe didnʻt agree that anyone else who emerged would win.

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